Fertilizer in hot weather

Teddy 1234

I was spread a bit of can today, and a lad came up to me and said in this weather it’s too dry to be spreading fertilizer. What do ye think?? I would hardly damage the fertilizer?

charolais0153

Teddy 1234 wrote: »

I was spread a bit of can today, and a lad came up to me and said in this weather it’s too dry to be spreading fertilizer. What do ye think?? I would hardly damage the fertilizer?

Dew in morning has plenty moisture for it imo

Say my name

Teddy 1234 wrote: »

I was spread a bit of can today, and a lad came up to me and said in this weather it’s too dry to be spreading fertilizer. What do ye think?? I would hardly damage the fertilizer?

My father and another fella were just talking about this yesterday.

They were talking about the dry weather and that the ground here can burn up.
Then they went on about the dry years in years past. Then my father told of how drawing straw during such in such a dry time years ago there was one young farmer who had green grass while everyone for miles were burnt up. The young farmer kept spreading nitrogen as normal while everyone else held off for fear that it would be wasted.

orm0nd

totally dependent on soil type

we have stopped spreading this week as we are about 5 days from drought status, still have lots of slurry to spread so will water that down & spread instead

_Brian

We’re getting heavy dew here with grass wet until maybe 11 each day.

Timmaay

I threw out an extra 25units on the silage ground the 10th of May, and when I cut it on the 30th I could still see granules that had not fully dissolved in the ground! Haven't spread any fert since mid may here on any ground here, and doesn't look like I will get to anytime soon.

greenfield21

That's dry, don't despair rain coming next week

Dickie10

rain next monday and tuesday night

visatorro

Dickie10 wrote:

rain next monday and tuesday night

For where though, any forecast I seen is just for showers. Could miss a lad very handy

TwoOldBoots

Dickie10 wrote: »

rain next monday and tuesday night

I don't know what forcast your looking at as Met is not showing any rain worthwhile for the next 7 days. It's early June we could get 6 weeks of dry weather from now and that would not be unusual

Teddy 1234

How are ye on the grass front? Did ye any spread much fertilizer lately? It’s looking like it’s going to be another week without rain

Snowfire

Glad to see bit of rain this evening to dissolve cut swart bulk spread on Silage ground earlier.
Grass really at a standstill for the last week or so. I’m grazing paddocks that really should be taken out and baled, but I need to extend the rotation, given the forecast for another dry spell

patsy_mccabe

I've land here that got no fertiliser yet this year and I'm seriously running out of grass. It just shows how messed up the weather /climate is now. Gone from non-stop rain to no rain at all.

Say my name

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I've land here that got no fertiliser yet this year and I'm seriously running out of grass. It just shows how messed up the weather /climate is now. Gone from non-stop rain to no rain at all.

Be janey!
All that's missing there now is for yourself to start watching Dr. David Johnston clips on composting.

croot

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

I've land here that got no fertiliser yet this year and I'm seriously running out of grass. It just shows how messed up the weather /climate is now. Gone from non-stop rain to no rain at all.

Ye must not have got the heavy rain yesterday in clare so. I had the eve-runs diverted into the slatted tanks because the slurry was a bit too dry and while I was sheltering from another down pour I filled a 2 gallon bucket in about 30 seconds. |It was like that most of the day so no moisture deficit around here now.

Parishlad

croot wrote: »

Ye must not have got the heavy rain yesterday in clare so. I had the eve-runs diverted into the slatted tanks because the slurry was a bit too dry and while I was sheltering from another down pour I filled a 2 gallon bucket in about 30 seconds. |It was like that most of the day so no moisture deficit around here now.

We definitely got a nice drop of rain just outside Ennis last night. Contractor worked late into the night/early morning to get all my slurry out so hopefully it got a bit of a soak.

patsy_mccabe

croot wrote: »

Ye must not have got the heavy rain yesterday in clare so. I had the eve-runs diverted into the slatted tanks because the slurry was a bit too dry and while I was sheltering from another down pour I filled a 2 gallon bucket in about 30 seconds. |It was like that most of the day so no moisture deficit around here now.

Talking to a guy just there and he said the same to me. He was in Ennis and said real heavy shower there yestetday.

oxjkqg

We got nothing worth talking about in west clare, wouldnt even put down the dust.

restive

Is there any advice on spreading fertilizer in our current weather? Three weeks now without rain. I cut silage yesterday and had a good crop. Should I spread fertilizer now?

tanko

restive wrote: »

Is there any advice on spreading fertilizer in our current weather? Three weeks now without rain. I cut silage yesterday and had a good crop. Should I spread fertilizer now?

Is there any point spreading it with no rain forecast for this week, especially on bare ground thats just been cut.

White Clover

tanko wrote: »

Is there any point spreading it with no rain forecast for this week, especially on bare ground thats just been cut.

I spread 30 units/acre of 18 6 12 (if that makes sense) yesterday evening on 30 acres followed by about 1000 gallons/acre of dirty water.
I'm not sure what it'll do but it's done now.
Heavy ground here. There's moisture there once it gets washed in.

FeelTheBern

restive wrote: »

Is there any advice on spreading fertilizer in our current weather? Three weeks now without rain. I cut silage yesterday and had a good crop. Should I spread fertilizer now?

Someone had posted link to Teagasc advice on one of the threads recently. Think basically said shouldn't be major loss of N from CAN if no rain but advice was to wait to spread until rain forecast ( I presume they meant real rain as opposed to the bull**** rain that appears on the forecast for a week's time then disappears like Keyser Soze)

Mooooo

Just thinking out loud here, but would nearly wait till after the first rains may appear, as with it likely to be thundery if it does appear initially 1) it may well be localised and miss you and 2) if it is thundery with the ground being so hard it may well run straight off the ground and take the fert with it if it is freshly put out.
Was following the cows but think I'll hold off now, one of the group mentioned spreading ahead of the cows as any ground with a bit of cover may have a heavier dew but the fert still seems to be on the ground from the last round here.

Wildsurfer

White Clover wrote: »

I spread 30 units/acre of 18 6 12 (if that makes sense) yesterday evening on 30 acres followed by about 1000 gallons/acre of dirty water.
I'm not sure what it'll do but it's done now.
Heavy ground here. There's moisture there once it gets washed in.

Is 18 6 12 a bit expensive to be chancing I wonder, just going with CAN here. You're being pro active anyways which must be admired.

kowtow

If I am spreading is there any advantage to be gained waiting for the evening to do it? (CAN on boggy ground where there is some green growing)

White Clover

Wildsurfer wrote: »

Is 18 6 12 a bit expensive to be chancing I wonder, just going with CAN here. You're being pro active anyways which must be admired.

I feel the extra p & k may help to move it on.

Angus2018

The fertiliser is just sitting on the ground where it was spread over 2 weeks ago and that got some rain.

Wildsurfer

kowtow wrote: »

If I am spreading is there any advantage to be gained waiting for the evening to do it? (CAN on boggy ground where there is some green growing)

Makes no difference I would imagine. It's not going to vaporize if sitting on ground in hot sun for a few hours after spreading. If it breaks down slightly with dew, and sits there for a few dry weeks is when the losses would occur I would think.

cute geoge

Angus2018 wrote: »

The fertiliser is just sitting on the ground where it was spread over 2 weeks ago and that got some rain.

I remember at our discussion group meeting with john dunworth one day after a dry spell ,he said the granuals sitting on the ground were only the shells of the fert .Imo the sun is the problem .I am thinking of spreading a paddock or too in the evening and maybe spread a tank or two of water on it afterwards

restive

How is this done in warmer climates? Australia, New Zealand etc. I am sure we have lads here who have farmed overseas.

einn32

restive wrote: »

How is this done in warmer climates? Australia, New Zealand etc. I am sure we have lads here who have farmed overseas.

They graze in the Winter in Australia. The summer kills all grass. Irrigation is only used on the shoulders of the grazing season. Fertiliser is spread during winter. This is just a dry spell that will pass. I'm sure lower land farmers are benefiting from it just like dry farms benefit from a wet Spring.

Say my name

einn32 wrote: »

They graze in the Winter in Australia. The summer kills all grass. Irrigation is only used on the shoulders of the grazing season. Fertiliser is spread during winter. This is just a dry spell that will pass. I'm sure lower land farmers are benefiting from it just like dry farms benefit from a wet Spring.

When you say kills grass.

Do you mean kills it altogether and a full reseed is needed or just browns the plant above ground and it comes back to life at the first rains?

Old fella tells of he's seen droughts so bad it killed the plants dead.
Seems unlikely to me but maybe....??

jaymla627

Say my name wrote: »

When you say kills grass.

Do you mean kills it altogether and a full reseed is needed or just browns the plant above ground and it comes back to life at the first rains?

Old fella tells of he's seen droughts so bad it killed the plants dead.
Seems unlikely to me but maybe....??

In Western Australia you’d be looking at having to reseed the entire farm one out of every three years, depending on severity of drought, in Victoria around gippsland it would be one in 5 years

3 the square

Would it be safe to say if the field is green spread
If its brown dont ??

older by the day

3 the square wrote: »

Would it be safe to say if the field is green spread
If its brown dont ??

I put out watery slurry, very watery, last week. Definitely is working. I can see the bits I missed. Problem is will the cows eat it in two weeks time, its dirty enough looking. Oh the joys

kowtow

I bit the bullet and put a bag of CAN out on some 'bog' fields on the outfarm this evening. I might not have bothered except that I wanted to test a new spinner.... the fields are green and have at least grown something since we cut them for silage 3 weeks ago, in contrast higher fields on the same farm which were also cut are brown all over with only tiny patches of green coming through. We'll leave those alone for the time being.


Will be interesting to see if the fert. makes any difference either before or after the rain eventually comes.

White Clover

White Clover wrote: »

I spread 30 units/acre of 18 6 12 (if that makes sense) yesterday evening on 30 acres followed by about 1000 gallons/acre of dirty water.
I'm not sure what it'll do but it's done now.
Heavy ground here. There's moisture there once it gets washed in.

It worked anyway. There was 4 bales/ acre taken off of here on June 30th. Also got 25 units/acre of CAN + S on 7th July. Bullocks going in to join the lambs tomorrow to get on top of it. The rain last weekend made a job of it.

White Clover

White Clover wrote: »

It worked anyway. There was 4 bales/ acre taken off of here on June 30th. Also got 25 units/acre of CAN + S on 7th July. Bullocks going in to join the lambs tomorrow to get on top of it. The rain last weekend made a job of it.

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White Clover

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