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Phone Unlocking

  • 02-06-2018 5:34pm
    #1
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I bought an iPhone 6 Plus from a guy on Adverts, turned out to be locked - he said he's sort it but never did, have to do it myself now. Locked to a Canadian network called Roger. I tried one shop they said it will be €40 - can I do it myself online for cheaper?


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  • #2
    jamesd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,464 ✭✭✭jamesd


    No €40 is good for it.


  • #3
    Alpha8
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 130 ✭✭Alpha8


    Maybe check ebay.

    https://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=iphone+unlock+roger&_sacat=0


  • #4
    Pugzilla
    Site Banned Posts: 1,765 ✭✭✭Pugzilla


    Your first mistake was buying an iPhone.


  • #5
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Alpha8 wrote: »
    Maybe check ebay.

    https://www.ebay.ie/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=iphone+unlock+roger&_sacat=0

    Wow, that seems to cheap t be true - how can they do it for a few quid if the normal price from shops are €40?
    Pugzilla wrote: »
    Your first mistake was buying an iPhone.

    It's for the missus I would not touch an iPhone


  • #6
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Zascar wrote: »
    Wow, that seems to cheap t be true - how can they do it for a few quid if the normal price from shops are €40?

    The title says Rogers CA, the blurb says VF Spain. Sounds like BS.



    iOS unlocks are often done via the network instead of a NAC code, in those cases only the network can unlock it.


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  • #7
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    ED E wrote: »
    The title says Rogers CA, the blurb says VF Spain. Sounds like BS.



    iOS unlocks are often done via the network instead of a NAC code, in those cases only the network can unlock it.

    Iirc they have never used a code, the network had to request it and then the unlock would be done through iTunes servers when the iPhone was restored in iTunes. I'm the last few years it has changed to OTA through iTunes servers.


  • #8
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Yeah iPhone has to be unlocked by Apple


  • #9
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    Ok so I'm not familiar with Apple - how does this work exactly? I thought you put a sim in, it asks you for a code, you put it in and hey presto. No?

    The dodgy guy I bought it from on adverts gave me this weird little tiny chip which I insert on top of the sim card and it somehow tricks the networks into making it work. However when you go overseas it wont work. The guy swore he'd have the unlock code for me in a few days and of course he never did. I stupidly believed him. Pity I cant vie him a bad review now its too late.


  • #10
    jacksie66
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,988 ✭✭✭jacksie66


    This post has been deleted.


  • #11
    billybonkers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    https://support.apple.com/en-ie/ht201328


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  • #12
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    Zascar wrote: »
    Ok so I'm not familiar with Apple - how does this work exactly? I thought you put a sim in, it asks you for a code, you put it in and hey presto. No?

    The dodgy guy I bought it from on adverts gave me this weird little tiny chip which I insert on top of the sim card and it somehow tricks the networks into making it work. However when you go overseas it wont work. The guy swore he'd have the unlock code for me in a few days and of course he never did. I stupidly believed him. Pity I cant vie him a bad review now its too late.

    Varies by network but say here for example, three will only unlock an iPhone for the original owner owner whereas Vodafone will do it for any customer. The request can only be done by the network the iPhone was originally locked to.

    Customer contacts network and they request apple to unlock it, apple then remove the network lock from that iPhone the next time it syncs with iTunes servers.


  • #13
    ED E
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Zascar wrote: »
    Ok so I'm not familiar with Apple - how does this work exactly? I thought you put a sim in, it asks you for a code, you put it in and hey presto. No?

    Everyone else: Baseband radio has a setting that needs a key to network unlock, big string you type in. Phone doesnt care how you got it once its valid.

    Apple: Controlled centrally by Apple. If IMEI X was sold to Rogers then Rogers need to tell them to unlock X.


    The fact that it was using a SIM sleeve was a dead giveaway. Hope at least you got it cheap.


  • #14
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    guil wrote: »
    Customer contacts network and they request apple to unlock it, apple then remove the network lock from that iPhone the next time it syncs with iTunes servers.

    Do you physically have to connect t the pc? I doubt by wife has ever done this or used iTunes.
    ED E wrote: »
    Everyone else: Baseband radio has a setting that needs a key to network unlock, big string you type in. Phone doesnt care how you got it once its valid.

    Apple: Controlled centrally by Apple. If IMEI X was sold to Rogers then Rogers need to tell them to unlock X.

    The fact that it was using a SIM sleeve was a dead giveaway. Hope at least you got it cheap.
    Yeah I should have known something was wrong but he promised the unlock within a week. It worked with the sleeve so was not an urgent problem but then he was all excuses. Got it a good bit cheaper than buying new but probably not worth it in the end as it usualy isnt...


  • #15
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,534 ✭✭✭✭guil


    Zascar wrote: »
    Do you physically have to connect t the pc? I doubt by wife has ever done this or used iTunes.


    Previously you did but not anymore.


  • #16
    Zascar
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 12,781 Mod ✭✭✭✭Zascar


    I tried the ebay unlock but he was unable to do it.

    Does anyone know what a "Turbo Sim" is? So when I got the phone it came with a tiny chip that I needed to put on top of the sim when inserting it, and it made it work in Ireland.

    The guy said maybe a new Turbo sim will make it work overseas also.

    Maybe I just need to pay the €40 to get it properly unlocked.


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