Learner Permit not valid for buying drink

Stephen15

So I was buying drink today in Supervalu and got for ID showed them my valid and in date learner permit and the girl said they only accepted full driving licences, passports or age cards the reason given was that a learner permit wouldn't stand up in court.

I know some places like Tesco only accept a passport or age card but why would they accept a full licence but not a learner permit both are valid forms of ID. Needless to say I bought drink elsewhere and a learner permit was accepted. Why wouldn't a learner permit be stand up in court but not a licence?

Outlaw Pete

I'll go in for ya. Watcha want?

kneemos

They both come from the same place with the same documentation presumably?

Stephen15

kneemos wrote: »

They both come from the same place with the same documentation presumably?

That's what I would have thought too.

sdanseo

I worked in a shop 10 years ago which could only accept passport or age card. That was part of a court order which accompanied the liquor licence, so ultimately a rule which was decided at the whim of a district court judge.

kneemos

sdanseo wrote: »

I worked in a shop 10 years ago which could only accept passport or age card. That was part of a court order which accompanied the liquor licence, so ultimately a rule which was decided at the whim of a district court judge.

Don't think old licenses had a photo.

Stephen15

sdanseo wrote: »

I worked in a shop 10 years ago which could only accept passport or age card. That was part of a court order which accompanied the liquor licence, so ultimately a rule which was decided at the whim of a district court judge.

Yes but the shop in question would except a full driving licence just not a learner permit. The old paper licences were easy to forge but the new credit card sized ones are much harder to harder to forge. I would imagine there aren't many people who still get asked for ID and have a paper driving licence they haven't been issued since 2012.

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cazzer22

I was buying alcohol in Tesco Express before and was asked for ID (26 at the time) and provided my full Irish driving licence, to which the guy working there looked at me with a puzzled expression 'What is this?' and I explained it was a full Irish driving licence and he still looked at me puzzled. It clicked with me that he must've never seen one before, because he was only used to seeing the card. He was too young to remember it, meaning he was at least 5-6 years younger than me. Ridiculous, but very entertaining.

SeanHarty

Got asked for ID one day in Tesco, I was 24 at the time and I went to school with the girl that asked me but she said she had to because her manager had been double checking people all day and she would get in trouble if they saw she didn't ask me.

Only had my drivers licence with me ( I never bothered paying the money for an age card, I grew up in a small town and was being let into bar since I was 15 and never needed one.) She told me she can't accept it and that I would have to show another form of I'D which I didn't have.

Called the manager over and she explained to him that she knew me and we went to primary together but he still refused to sell the drink to me. Baffling.

Went straight across the road to supervalu who accepted my drivers licence no problem.

EDIT: I had a full licence at the time.

Galwayguy35

I think you can get a Garda ID card, if you have one of them you'll be grand OP.

OldMrBrennan83

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Stephen15

Donald Trump wrote: »

You'll be grand in August


You can show them you joined boards.ie in July 2015 and your username had your age in it then


Unfortunately, it is not definitive proof until July 31st. But then you are golden

15 is my lucky number. I was 17 when joined boards and I'm 20 now and no I didn't join boards on my birthday either.

Donald Trump

Stephen15 wrote: »

15 is my lucky number. I was 17 when joined boards and I'm 20 now and no I didn't join boards on my birthday either.

15 is your lucky number?


Is that you Tom Humphries?

SEPT 23 1989

Hang around outside and wait for older boys to go in for you

Capt'n Midnight

Drinking and driving :mad:

alroley

Different but the credit union wouldn't accept a learner permit as ID but would accept a full driving licence. Don't know why.

kneemos

Why is out of date photo ID not accepted? It's obviously you.

mad muffin

Thinly veiled, I look so young I got carded post…

punisher5112

Kellogg's cut out works for me

punisher5112

kneemos wrote: »

Why is out of date photo ID not accepted? It's obviously you.

Eh because it's out of date so no longer accepted.

NinetyTwoTeam

kneemos wrote: »

Why is out of date photo ID not accepted? It's obviously you.

i suppose cuz it could just be an old one someone discarded. they wouldn't allow me open a credit union acct with out of date passport.

Stephen15

Another I would wonder is if you are in a shop and get asked for ID could you just put the money on the counter and take the drink. Could you still be done for shoplifting despite actually paying for the goods.

arybvtcw0eolkf

Rules are for the obedience of fool and guidance of the wise'.

When I worked on the doors of bars and clubs I never gave a toss for out of date, or even checking too closely for fake ID.

Out of date ID is still ID, its just out of date for its intended use.

I'm not Passport Control, and I'm not trained in forgery identification so if the passport had a photo resembling the person presenting it to me that was good enough.

If someone refuses a learner driving permit as valid ID that person is a fool.

r93kaey5p2izun

I couldn't buy a bottle of wine recently in Lidl with my passport. Said they only accept the Garda Age Card. I don't drink and was buying as a gift (specifically requested - I was sceptical of Lidl wine but that's what they wanted and I haven't a clue), but I find it difficult to believe they actually enforce such a policy. Very few customers are going to have an Age Card. I'd feel ridiculous applying for one.

kneemos

Alicia Immense Cough wrote: »

I couldn't buy a bottle of wine recently in Lidl with my passport. Said they only accept the Garda Age Card. I don't drink and was buying as a gift (specifically requested - I was sceptical of Lidl wine but that's what they wanted and I haven't a clue), but I find it difficult to believe they actually enforce such a policy. Very few customers are going to have an Age Card. I'd feel ridiculous applying for one.

Nothing wrong with Lidl wine.

Lidl don't make it.

SeanHarty

kneemos wrote: »

Alicia Immense Cough wrote: »

I couldn't buy a bottle of wine recently in Lidl with my passport. Said they only accept the Garda Age Card. I don't drink and was buying as a gift (specifically requested - I was sceptical of Lidl wine but that's what they wanted and I haven't a clue), but I find it difficult to believe they actually enforce such a policy. Very few customers are going to have an Age Card. I'd feel ridiculous applying for one.

Nothing wrong with Lidl wine.

Lidl don't make it.

So many people have problems with lidl/Aldi and I just don't get it.

I drink a good bit of gin and have owned most of the "expensive" bottles.

Best value for money is boyles gin in Aldi nearly identical to Hendricks and at €27 for a 70cl it's half the price!

SeanHarty

kneemos wrote: »

Alicia Immense Cough wrote: »

I couldn't buy a bottle of wine recently in Lidl with my passport. Said they only accept the Garda Age Card. I don't drink and was buying as a gift (specifically requested - I was sceptical of Lidl wine but that's what they wanted and I haven't a clue), but I find it difficult to believe they actually enforce such a policy. Very few customers are going to have an Age Card. I'd feel ridiculous applying for one.

Nothing wrong with Lidl wine.

Lidl don't make it.

So many people have problems with lidl/Aldi and I just don't get it.

I drink a good bit of gin and have owned most of the "expensive" bottles.

Best value for money is boyles gin in Aldi nearly identical to Hendricks and at €27 for a 70cl it's half the price!

kneemos

Quality wines are what Aldi and Lidl use to attract middle class punters.

Samuel T. Cogley

sdanseo wrote: »

I worked in a shop 10 years ago which could only accept passport or age card. That was part of a court order which accompanied the liquor licence, so ultimately a rule which was decided at the whim of a district court judge.

Blame your favourite TDs. It's a legislative provision that ONLY an age card is a valid defence for selling drink to someone who is underage. No Passports, drivers licences, bus passes, birth certs, PS cards, Military IDs, letter from the Pope.

Stephen15

Samuel T. Cogley wrote: »

Blame your favourite TDs. It's a legislative provision that ONLY an age card is a valid defence for selling drink to someone who is underage. No Passports, drivers licences, bus passes, birth certs, PS cards, Military IDs, letter from the Pope.

It's riddiculous. Just more unesscary cards that need to be carried around in your wallet with your driving licence, ps card, student card etc. The age card is also much is easier to forge than a passport. Garda money making racket if you ask me.