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Any Irish beer like a Belgian dark ale?

  • 29-05-2018 9:06pm
    #1
    Anthracite
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    As the title suggests, I'm wondering does anybody in Ireland make a dark ale along the lines of Rochefort 6/8/10, Chimay Blue, St Bernardus Abt, or similar?

    If not, why not? Anybody I know who tries those beers loves them. It can't be rocket science for one of our many microbreweries to brew something similar.


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  • #2
    Bogsnorkler
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    Mescan


  • #3
    BeerNut
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    Bogsnorkler wrote: »
    Mescan
    Mescan Special Reserve would be along those lines all right. It's a winter seasonal AFAIK, and not even every winter. Rye River has a limited edition Belgian Imperial Stout out at the moment which broadly fits the bill. Other breweries do them from time to time, like Trouble's Rum & Raisin and Urban's Belgian Dubbel, both of which were out late last year.
    Anthracite wrote: »
    If not, why not?
    Possibly because the beers you mention are readily available. Why try to compete?

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  • #4
    oblivious
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    Theres the whiplash quad too


  • #5
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    oblivious wrote: »
    Theres the whiplash quad too

    But it's pretty poor and doesn't resemble a quad at all.


  • #6
    DelmarODonnell
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    But it's pretty poor and doesn't resemble a quad at all.

    I love the stuff Whiplash have been doing and they are my go to for Double IPAs.

    But that Quad was the least enjoyable beer I've had in the last year.


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  • #7
    Ryath
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    White Gypsy make a Dubbel


  • #8
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    DelmarODonnell wrote: »
    I love the stuff Whiplash have been doing and they are my go to for Double IPAs.

    But that Quad was the least enjoyable beer I've had in the last year.


    The hoppy beers they do are pretty good, but that quad was a disaster.


  • #9
    HopsAndJumps
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    Belgian beers are very tricky to master and some of them require a lot of time to contrition before they can sell them. Those two factors I guess will make breweries shy away from them, lots of time, money and space for a product that has nothing in taste compared to the real thing. 
    Pale ales and IPAs are made in a few weeks, easier, faster to R&D and are more popular I think.


  • #10
    BeerNut
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    HopsAndJumps wrote: »
    a lot of time to contrition
    This is why they're brewed in abbeys :P

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  • #11
    HopsAndJumps
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    BeerNut wrote: »
    HopsAndJumps wrote: »
    a lot of time to contrition
    This is why they're brewed in abbeys :P
    :D


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  • #12
    Anthracite
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    HopsAndJumps wrote: »
    and are more popular I think.
    They may indeed be more popular, but I wonder is that because people just have not tried the Belgian beers I cite above? Anyone I've put on to them raves about them.

    I wonder is it a bit like the situation a decade ago when everyone had their favourite of Heineken, Budweiser or Carlsberg...because they hadn't tried anything more interesting?


  • #13
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    Anthracite wrote: »
    They may indeed be more popular, but I wonder is that because people just have not tried the Belgian beers I cite above? Anyone I've put on to them raves about them.

    They are lighter in body, have more range of flavours, generally lower in abv, easier to drink a lot of in one sitting, and a lot of other reasons are why IPAs are more popular than strong Belgian beers amongst most "craft" beer fans.


  • #14
    Anthracite
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    They are lighter in body, have more range of flavours, generally lower in abv, easier to drink a lot of in one sitting, and a lot of other reasons are why IPAs are more popular than strong Belgian beers amongst most "craft" beer fans.
    This is true for sure. I guess I enjoy beer differently to a lot of other people, one or two on an evening is enough. I find after a few good beers, you might as well be drinking Heineken for all you can tell. That's why you serve the good wine at the start of a party...


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