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Recruiter scam?!

  • 23-05-2018 3:51pm
    #1
    dorado99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭


    Hi all,
    I've just had an interview with a recruiter firm to work in a warehouse over the summer. When I got home I got contacted for training they will be running tomorrow and that I'll need to pay a fee for it. I feel that this seems a bit dodgy as I was told normally training is paid for. Should I be concerned?


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  • #2
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,086 ✭✭✭duffman13


    dorado99 wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I've just had an interview with a recruiter firm to work in a warehouse over the summer. When I got home I got contacted for training they will be running tomorrow and that I'll need to pay a fee for it. I feel that this seems a bit dodgy as I was told normally training is paid for. Should I be concerned?

    Who's the recruiter? Have they sent a contract of employment? Seems against the norm from my experience


  • #3
    D3V!L
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,964 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    dorado99 wrote: »
    Hi all,
    I've just had an interview with a recruiter firm to work in a warehouse over the summer. When I got home I got contacted for training they will be running tomorrow and that I'll need to pay a fee for it. I feel that this seems a bit dodgy as I was told normally training is paid for. Should I be concerned?

    Yes, no company would ask you to pay for your own training.


  • #4
    Masala
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,527 ✭✭✭Masala


    How much they asking for??

    Some industries (eg Security) need online certification and the resulting cert can be used elsewhere for 3-5 yrs. So... an employer might feel that the online fee is a personal investment and why should they foot the bill for others to benefit down the line. Also - it focuses the mind to ensure a pass etc!!


  • #5
    dorado99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭dorado99


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Who's the recruiter? Have they sent a contract of employment? Seems against the norm from my experience

    I have just signed a bunch of agreements such as if I'm sick I'll tell them, which seems like a bunch of nonsense since I actually haven't signed any contract. In hindsight the interview seemed weird, 5 minutes long.


  • #6
    dorado99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭dorado99


    Masala wrote: »
    How much they asking for??

    Some industries (eg Security) need online certification and the resulting cert can be used elsewhere for 3-5 yrs. So... an employer might feel that the online fee is a personal investment and why should they foot the bill for others to benefit down the line. Also - it focuses the mind to ensure a pass etc!!

    60 Euro, the ad does say that a "benefit" in working there is that I'll get training, not sure how it's a benefit if I need to pay for it.


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  • #7
    uck51js9zml2yt
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    If it's a Warehouse job it's probably a manual handling course.
    It wouldn't be unknown for companies to want temps to have it done before they start and not want to bear the cost themselves.

    It will stand to you for future jobs.


  • #8
    BrokenArrows
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,501 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    It sounds a bit weird.
    Do you know the company you will be working for?
    Try googling that company and interviews and see what comes up.


  • #9
    dorado99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭dorado99


    BrokenArrows wrote: »
    It sounds a bit weird.
    Do you know the company you will be working for?
    Try googling that company and interviews and see what comes up.

    The interviewer did mention the type of production that goes on in warehouse it's the only one in the area as far as I'm aware. I googled that and reviews have no mention of anything dodgy.


  • #10
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,086 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Read the reviews on Google there, a lot of one reviewers on there. I'd avoid unless the specify what the fee is for ie manual handling etc that you may not already have


  • #11
    dorado99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭dorado99


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Read the reviews on Google there, a lot of one reviewers on there. I'd avoid unless the specify what the fee is for ie manual handling etc that you may not already have

    It is manual handling.


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  • #12
    duffman13
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,086 ✭✭✭duffman13


    dorado99 wrote: »
    It is manual handling.

    Something useful at least, maybe chance the arm and ask them can they take it from your first pay packet? Good way of knowing if there is an actual job there. They've reviews on Facebook switched off


  • #13
    Misguided1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭Misguided1


    D3V!L wrote: »
    Yes, no company would ask you to pay for your own training.

    Ryanair does.

    I would attend the training and pay at the end of the training session. It sounds a little suspect to me but you might get an idea once you go for the training. I wouldn't hand any money over to the agency. Out of interest, what is the agency name? PM me if you don't want to post it.


  • #14
    testicles
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,198 ✭✭✭testicles


    This post has been deleted.


  • #15
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Reading some of their glowing reviews I would be very sceptical
    Wording on them is just "not right"

    p.s.
    Manual Handling course can be got for a lot less money and time


  • #16
    dorado99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭dorado99


    Read some reviews, and people were promised jobs after completing the course but never got it. I contacted them to request that they deduct the fee from my first paycheck. Generally get a dodgy feeling about everything to do with this. The advertisement seems dodgy, saying they require 30 workers, no other advertiser mentioned anything about numbers, looks like they are just trying to draw people in. The interview seemed weird, with the interviewer mentioning I have no previous experience, then dragging me back in and saying that I will get the job, felt like manipulative techniques. The interview took like 4-5 minutes, didn't feel right. I'll do the training if they're serious about this and are ok with deducting the fee from my first paycheck I'll go ahead with it.


  • #17
    dorado99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭dorado99


    Also they requested I pay the fee with a postal order as they don't accept cash, which makes no sense, any motive behind this?


  • #18
    fritzelly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,868 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Older thread here but seems still relevant
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056969894


  • #19
    The_Conductor
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 32,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭The_Conductor


    Misguided1 wrote: »
    Ryanair does.

    I would attend the training and pay at the end of the training session. It sounds a little suspect to me but you might get an idea once you go for the training. I wouldn't hand any money over to the agency. Out of interest, what is the agency name? PM me if you don't want to post it.

    Not anymore.
    Ryanair lost a court case on this in the last 2-3 weeks, and made a formal announcement on it, ending the practice, about 10 days ago.

    https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/ryanair-is-hiring-cabin-crew-heres-how-to-apply-and-what-you-could-earn-36129020.html

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2018/0306/945452-training-for-ryanair-pilots-will-no-longer-cost-30k/

    (Those two links cover cabin crew and pilots- other grades are now similar)


  • #20
    dorado99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭dorado99


    They did reply that they'll deduct the fee from first wage. Thanks for suggesting to do that, now I can relax XD


  • #21
    Misguided1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 215 ✭✭Misguided1


    The_Conductor wrote: »
    Not anymore.
    Ryanair lost a court case on this in the last 2-3 weeks, and made a formal announcement on it, ending the practice, about 10 days ago.

    https://www.independent.ie/life/travel/travel-news/ryanair-is-hiring-cabin-crew-heres-how-to-apply-and-what-you-could-earn-36129020.html

    https://www.rte.ie/news/business/2018/0306/945452-training-for-ryanair-pilots-will-no-longer-cost-30k/

    (Those two links cover cabin crew and pilots- other grades are now similar)

    Wasn't aware of that but glad to see that common sense prevailed! Thanks


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