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Man jailed for 18 years for 3 brutal rapes.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    But garlic man something something TV licence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Wonder why he can't be named?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Wonder why he can't be named?

    In case it leads to the identification of the victims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    The sentence is decent, but if a person shows no remorse when it comes to release in lets say 12 years time, then they shouldn't be released.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    RobertKK wrote: »
    The sentence is decent, but if a person shows no remorse when it comes to release in lets say 12 years time, then they shouldn't be released.

    He'll have to serve another 5 years if he doesn't complete rehabilitation for sex offenders in prison. Would still like to see this lad tagged for life tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,786 ✭✭✭KathleenGrant


    In case it leads to the identification of the victims.

    Named on another link below main story. Shocking attacks but 18 years better than a lot of other sentences I have read.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    In case it leads to the identification of the victims.

    But they weren't known to him or related to him were they?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭BoroMan32


    Hopefully post-sentence he'll be deported back to wherever he came from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,761 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    He'll have to serve another 5 years if he doesn't complete rehabilitation for sex offenders in prison. Would still like to see this lad tagged for life tbh.

    Agree people like this should be tagged for life. I am not convinced sex offenders can be rehabilitated. Their bodies are not wired properly to do things like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    Named on another link below main story. Shocking attacks but 18 years better than a lot of other sentences I have read.
    He's named in articles in the irish times and rte from March. Wonder how the judge thinks he can be retrospectively un-named.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,105 ✭✭✭Kivaro


    He's named in articles in the irish times and rte from March. Wonder how the judge thinks he can be retrospectively un-named.


    It's very odd.
    And one of his victims did a television interview on RTE last week to describe the devastation brought about by this savage attack. I felt terrible for her.

    This neanderthal should be serving at least 30 years for these crimes.
    The judicial system has let down not only the victims in this case but Irish society in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Thank God the Judge gave consecutive sentences. This was after the Probation Report contained a number of errors and was replaced by a corrected report.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0520/964799-probation/


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,030 ✭✭✭thebull85


    Thank God the Judge gave consecutive sentences. This was after the Probation Report contained a number of errors and was replaced by a corrected report.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/0520/964799-probation/



    "Medium risk of re-offending" ffs.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,670 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    It's a bit confusing as to why there's a block on his name now. There's by far more articles written about him where he's named than ones he's not named.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    But garlic man something something TV licence.

    That’s getting old.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Kivaro wrote: »
    It's very odd.
    And one of his victims did a television interview on RTE last week to describe the devastation brought about by this savage attack. I felt terrible for her.

    This neanderthal should be serving at least 30 years for these crimes.
    The judicial system has let down not only the victims in this case but Irish society in general.

    This is a very long sentence by Irish court standards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    That’s getting old.

    It's best to get it over with early on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    This is a very long sentence by Irish court standards.

    That doesn't make it sufficient.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    It's best to get it over with early on.

    It’s an attempt to deflect from serious problems in the Irish legal system early on.

    Take this probation report excuse for deeming him a medium chance of reoffending( second lowest)

    The probation officer replied that it was "an actuarial assessment" and for the purposes of a sentence hearing the offences were counted as one because it was one sentence hearing

    That’s insane. The judge was right to question it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    Not to detract from the savage crimes but, is this the norm
    a jury of eleven men

    Would a jury of men have been chosen for a particular reason? I thought a jury would always be a mix of men and women?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Wonder why he can't be named?

    He was previously, another foreigner who messed up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    It’s an attempt to deflect from serious problems in the Irish legal system early on.

    Quite the opposite. The continual reference to Garlic man and TV licences detracts from any serious conversation about the criminal justice system. Best to nip that tired old line of conversation in the bud.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭FingerDeKat


    erica74 wrote: »
    Would a jury of men have been chosen for a particular reason? I thought a jury would always be a mix of men and women?
    I remember correctly from the ulster rugby rape thread I think statistically juries made up of more women are less likely to convict


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    erica74 wrote: »
    Not to detract from the savage crimes but, is this the norm



    Would a jury of men have been chosen for a particular reason? I thought a jury would always be a mix of men and women?

    I doubt they were chosen, they just happened to be the panel. I'm unclear how much jury selection goes on in Ireland. One of the jurors must have bowed out for some reason.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,619 ✭✭✭erica74


    I remember correctly from the ulster rugby rape thread I think statistically juries made up of more women are less likely to convict

    Oh that's interesting, didn't know that.
    I doubt they were chosen, they just happened to be the panel. I'm unclear how much jury selection goes on in Ireland. One of the jurors must have bowed out for some reason.

    Ah, I must be letting American TV shows influence me. I had this image in my head of the jurors being chosen. Yeah, I figured there was probably 12 men originally.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    I don’t understand why he wouldn’t be named now. His picture and names are up on news stories from March.

    He is a complete coward, spineless, pathetic creature and deserves to suffer for the rest of his life for what he did to those women.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,461 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    He was named few months ago. Eastern European fella drugged up to the hills.


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