shoot edit for TV on a phone.?

by8auj6csd3ioq

I heard ads on radio for a course in shoot edit for TV on a phone*. What sort of files are needed for tv broadcast and would a phone produce them? Would a DSLR produce them?

* I think it is some Expo, cannot remember the full title

ED E

File types wouldn't be the thing to be concerned about.


What you'd need as a bare minimum:
- Phone with good OIS and poor light performance
- Shotgun mic
- Gimbal

That gets you footage thats good enough for live reports from events etc, paparazzi stuff (watch the Giro D'Italia to see such setups in use today).

To suggest you'd shoot a drama on a phone for TV is silly, IMO.

awec

DSLRs have been used before to shoot TV Dramas.

Years ago a season finale episode of House was shot entirely on a Canon 5D II.

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awec wrote: »

DSLRs have been used before to shoot TV Dramas.

Years ago a season finale episode of House was shot entirely on a Canon 5D II.

It could be done I'd bet... plenty of music videos have been shot on phones... Today, the H20 pro, S9 plus etc....it's definitely doable...if a little impractical

ianob7

Isn't there a soderburg (excuse the spelling) movie out or due out that was filmed solely on an iPhone ?

awec

ianob7 wrote: »

Isn't there a soderburg (excuse the spelling) movie out or due out that was filmed solely on an iPhone ?

He's done it before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7KZrt_cHH0

IMO it doesn't look good.

ianob7

That's the one I was thinking of

11811

Aaron Fluffy Beaver wrote: »

I heard ads on radio for a course in shoot edit for TV on a phone*. What sort of files are needed for tv broadcast and would a phone produce them? Would a DSLR produce them?

* I think it is some Expo, cannot remember the full title

Heard this myself and as a videographer, I was a little intrigued... Typically there are minimum requirements that need to be met for TV broadcast. These are agreed on in The EU by the EBU. Most phones and even DSLRs would not meet them, but the rules can be relaxed if deemed appropriate to do so.

For example GoPro footage is used a lot in Documentaries etc. These cameras wouldn't be approved as such. But, as long as they are only used as a secondary camera and the footage doesn't exceed a certain percent of the running time of the show, they're fine.

These are the minimum specs you'd be looking to achieve for broadcast recommended by the EBU

50 Mbit/s 4:2:2 minimum for MPEG-2 based inter-frame codecs.
100 Mbit/s 4:2:2 minimum for intra-frame codecs.

Additionally, AVCHD above 35 Mbit/s 4:2:0 may be acceptable provided all post processing is carried out in the native camera codec.

For Journalism/News these standards can be relaxed to allow the use of

35 Mbit/s MPEG-2 based inter-frame codecs at 4:2:0.
50 Mbit/s AVC intra-frame codecs at 4:2:0.
Additionally, AVCHD at a minimum of 24 Mbit/s 4:2:0 may be acceptable.

The specs here would suggest that you could possibly shoot some News/Journalistic content on a Phone/DSLR, but I doubt that the camera crew on Peaky Blinders is going to be reaching for an iPhone anytime soon.

by8auj6csd3ioq

11811 wrote: »

Aaron Fluffy Beaver wrote: »

I heard ads on radio for a course in shoot edit for TV on a phone*. What sort of files are needed for tv broadcast and would a phone produce them? Would a DSLR produce them?

* I think it is some Expo, cannot remember the full title

Heard this myself and as a videographer, I was a little intrigued... Typically there are minimum requirements that need to be met for TV broadcast. These are agreed on in The EU by the EBU. Most phones and even DSLRs would not meet them, but the rules can be relaxed if deemed appropriate to do so.

For example GoPro footage is used a lot in Documentaries etc. These cameras wouldn't be approved as such. But, as long as they are only used as a secondary camera and the footage doesn't exceed a certain percent of the running time of the show, they're fine.

These are the minimum specs you'd be looking to achieve for broadcast recommended by the EBU

50 Mbit/s 4:2:2 minimum for MPEG-2 based inter-frame codecs.
100 Mbit/s 4:2:2 minimum for intra-frame codecs.

Additionally, AVCHD above 35 Mbit/s 4:2:0 may be acceptable provided all post processing is carried out in the native camera codec.

For Journalism/News these standards can be relaxed to allow the use of

35 Mbit/s MPEG-2 based inter-frame codecs at 4:2:0.
50 Mbit/s AVC intra-frame codecs at 4:2:0.
Additionally, AVCHD at a minimum of 24 Mbit/s 4:2:0 may be acceptable.

The specs here would suggest that you could possibly shoot some News/Journalistic content on a Phone/DSLR, but I doubt that the camera crew on Peaky Blinders is going to be reaching for an iPhone anytime soon.

The advert does not give the impression that they would be used for secondary camera though. That is why I was curious. Someone said the film Unsane is shot on an iphone but i have not seen it
What camera do you shoot with if you do not mind my asking?

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Aaron Fluffy Beaver wrote: »

The advert does not give the impression that they would be used for secondary camera though. That is why I was curious. Someone said the film Unsane is shot on an iphone but i have not seen it
What camera do you shoot with if you do not mind my asking?

Yeah I'd imagine that it's more for Journalistic style stuff, which you can get away with to a certain extent. I'd say it focuses on using your phone to it's best so you can get good clean footage etc.

I usually like to shoot on a Sony Fs7, but use whatever is necessary for the job at hand.