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Sound Dublin county council house shed

  • 13-05-2018 1:37pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭


    Hi ,I have lived here for over 10 years,it is a council house I rent.

    Am I allowed to build.a block work shed under 25 SQM floor space inside.

    Or is the outside edges of brick walls used to measure.
    The size.

    It will have heating and electric.
    A sloped roof one way,front 2.75 high,back about 3.10 Meters high

    It looks like many others have built these,around here.
    Thanks ,


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    The 25msq is the internal floor area. I assume you need permission from the landowner (coco) to do it???

    Not sure of garden size but make sure you have at least 25sqm of garden/rear area left after shed built..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭chessguy


    rayjdav wrote: »
    The 25msq is the internal floor area. I assume you need permission from the landowner (coco) to do it???

    Not sure of garden size but make sure you have at least 25sqm of garden/rear area left after shed built..

    I have 40 SQM left,after build ,what I would like to know ,isdo I actually need permission,does any one know?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    No planning permission needed if the shed is under 25sqm.
    I assumed with the question was regarding the extent of the area, i.e. outside or inside to acheive the 25sqm.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭chessguy


    rayjdav wrote: »
    No planning permission needed if the shed is under 25sqm.
    I assumed with the question was regarding the extent of the area, i.e. outside or inside to acheive the 25sqm.....

    Am I okay with the height ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭chessguy


    rayjdav wrote: »
    No planning permission needed if the shed is under 25sqm.
    I assumed with the question was regarding the extent of the area, i.e. outside or inside to acheive the 25sqm.....

    Am I okay with the height ?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    No, it MUST be under 3.0m in height for flat roof to be exempt


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭chessguy


    rayjdav wrote: »
    No, it MUST be under 3.0m in height for flat roof to be exempt

    It is not actual flat roof it
    Is sloped roof one way, towards the front 2.75 high,back about 3.10 Meters high


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,097 ✭✭✭rayjdav


    up to 10 degrees is actually considered "flat roof" . Regardless, 3m high unless you have a pitched roof then its 4m


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭chessguy


    rayjdav wrote: »
    up to 10 degrees is actually considered "flat roof" . Regardless, 3m high unless you have a pitched roof then its 4m

    Hmm so if the internal,, length from from to back is 4 .70,
    Then the back wall would need to be approx 47 cm higher,
    than the front is that correct?

    If on the existing back end of the roof could I add a 20 cosmetic plastic trim on top of it,would that suffice ?
    Thanks


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    Usually the rule of thumb is if it has roof tiles or slates it can be considered pitched.

    But, and it’s a big but, you need permission from your county council. You need to approach the council area office and apply for permission to them. They will send the area engineer out to check and they may request that you engage the services of an engineer or architect to over see, and certify the works.

    Have just gone brough this for a client very recently.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭chessguy


    kceire wrote: »
    Usually the rule of thumb is if it has roof tiles or slates it can be considered pitched.

    But, and it’s a big but, you need permission from your county council. You need to approach the council area office and apply for permission to them. They will send the area engineer out to check and they may request that you engage the services of an engineer or architect to over see, and certify the works.

    Have just gone brough this for a client very recently.

    It was built for me by friend a bricky ,I did the roof,it's a
    EPDM roof


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    chessguy wrote: »
    It was built for me by friend a bricky ,I did the roof,it's a
    EPDM roof

    So already built?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭chessguy


    kceire wrote: »
    So already built?

    Yes already built,electrics and rad in too,


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,339 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    chessguy wrote: »
    Yes already built,electrics and rad in too,

    Ok then, why ask the questions now?
    Has somebody complained?
    Has the council reacted to it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 163 ✭✭chessguy


    kceire wrote: »
    So already built?

    Yes built and no complaints,I just wondered about height that's all if i had to,I could always raise the back with wood ,and create a dummy wedged roof,2x4 with galvanised sheeting.,thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,606 ✭✭✭schemingbohemia


    This is, to all intents and purposes, a rental house. You don't have the right to modify it, or its exterior, without the permission of your landlord - the council.
    So whilst it might not require planning permission, that is predicated on the owner seeking permission not the current tenant.


  • Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Yeah, in the 'olden days' you could kinda do what you wanted and no one cared (including the council).

    Hence council estates with massive sheds everywhere, house extensions and alterations etc. galore.

    Nowadays i think it's a bit different though. Council might not react very favourably to any changes without permission (but I could be wrong).


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