Your schooldays? Did you feel "abused" at any point?

youtube!

Now I don't mean sexual abuse because that is a whole different ballgame, but I am sure people of a certain vintage say late 40s onwards can identify with me on certain "punishments" for sometimes minor offences.

For example I remember on many occasions getting the ruler usually, but on several occasions the bamboo cane on the bare hands for offences ranging from being out of line in the yard to mitching for a half day or telling the teacher to get lost (under my breath) . I even remember having 4 whips on each hand ( 8 of the best as it was referred to by the teachers) with the bamboo cane for a reason I don't recall , I probably had welts for a day of two.

The point I am trying to make however is it all felt quite normal and at no time then or since did it feel like I was being abused... I have only positive and happy memories of my innocent schooldays.

This was primary school, it had largely stopped being viewed as normal by the time I reached secondary.
However if one of my kids had come in with welts on their hands there is no telling what I would have inflicted upon the teacher!

I certainly do not feel like a victim but the question has to be asked was I?

Did you endure similar stuff in your schooldays or worse?

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1

No.

Jim Bob Scratcher

#metoo

Harry Palmr

Corporal punishment wasn't banned until 1982, imagine that - adults were free to cane children when Adam And the Ants were in the charts.

average_runner

youtube! wrote: »

Now I don't mean sexual abuse because that is a whole different ballgame, but I am sure people of a certain vintage say late 40s onwards can identify with me on certain "punishments" for sometimes minor offences.

For example I remember on manyl occasions getting the ruler usually but on several occasion the bamboo cane on the bare hands for offences ranging from being out of line in the yard to mitching for a half day or telling the teacher to get lost (under my breath) . Yes I even remember having 4 whips on each hand ( 8 of the best as it was referred to by the teachers) with the bamboo cane for a reason I don't recall , I probably had welts for a day of two. This was primary school, it had largely stopped being viewed as normal by the time I reached secondary.

The point I am trying to make however is it all felt quite normal and at no time then or since did it feel like I was being abused... I have only positive and happy memories of my innocent schooldays.

However if one of my kids had come in with welts on their hands there is no telling what I would have inflicted upon the teacher!

I certainly do not feel like a victim but the question has to be asked was I?

Did you endure similar stuff in your schooldays or worse?

Got the ruler on the knuckles, book across the head, dead arm. Did no harm. Need to bring it back the way teenagers behave now

meeeeh

I was asked to wipe the blackboard by English substitute teacher when wearing low cut top. He completely ignored me the rest of time.

McMurphy

I, and many others in my class used to get the odd cuff round the ear, kick in the arse, or the strap/ cane when felt it was needed.

It didn't do me any harm, and I probably more than likely deserved it, and if I came home and told the parents, it was highly likely I'd get the same again from them because I "was prob talking when you should've been listening". But that was how it was then.

Hesh's Umpire

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Corporal punishment wasn't banned until 1982, imagine that - adults were free to cane children when Adam And the Ants were in the charts.

I could've sworn it was 1980.
I went to secondary school in 1979 and thought it was gone a year later.

professore

meeeeh wrote: »

I was asked to wipe the blackboard by English substitute teacher when wearing low cut top. He completely ignored me the rest of time.

Huh? Surely he couldn't see the low cut top while you were wiping the blackboard? The top of the class was a better vantage point? Also did you not have a school uniform?

jamesbere

I got a few clips around the ear. Didn't do me any harm. Except maybe my ear

Harry Palmr

Hesh's Umpire wrote: »

I could've sworn it was 1980.
I went to secondary school in 1979 and thought it was gone a year later.

Maybe your school was ahead of the curve. Mine never used it as it went against the stated ethos.

I went to a Marist Brothers school, and there was no caning. A rap with knuckles to the skull, or the pulling of an ear. I never felt "abused" or damaged by the experience, and most guys I went to school with have nothing but praise for the school and how it treated them.

professore

Sure. The nuns used to slap me with thick short pieces of wood, or bamboo, mostly on the hands. Generally this punishment was reserved for boys only. The girls rarely got any corporal punishment. Did I feel abused? Not in the least.

It was a badge of honour not to cry, especially if the nun was really trying to make you. Then again I have a high pain threshold.

Was in 3rd class when it ended. Luckily as I went to a Christian brothers afterwards with a reputation for brutality.

pickarooney

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Corporal punishment wasn't banned until 1982, imagine that - adults were free to cane children when Adam And the Ants were in the charts.

It went on a lot longer than that. The headmaster in my primary was dealing out belts of the cane at least into the late 80s.

arybvtcw0eolkf

I went to a Christian brothers school (I'll get that out of the way first).

Sexually, no.

But they were a shower of violent bastards, and there's more than a few I'd love to get my fvcking hands on now. I'd fvcking beat them to within an inch of their lives.

[This was back in the early to late 70's to mid 80's]

Sonics2k

I had one right prick of a teacher in 3rd class. I'd only moved over from England about a year previously and obviously had an accent.

He used to chuck things me, threw me against a wall twice (literally did this), would call me "a little English cúnt" and would encourage some of the other kids to bully me. I got jumped by a bunch of lads one day, and he stood there and watched from the top of the stairs, when I walked past him a few minutes later with a big cut on my head he casually points towards the nurses office and went back on his lunch.

This was in the early 90's.

Was bloody delighted to get out of that school.

Ken.

I am left handed. In 3rd class in 1987 the teacher decided I was wrong and tried to make me write with my right hand. For 2 days I done no work as he wouldn't let me use my left and I couldn't even hold the pencil properly with my right.

My mother came down to the school and had words but he insisted. Then the next day my 6'2 all army tug of war champion father arrived down. Allowed use my left after that but the prick marked me down on writing ability every chance he got.

amcalester

I’m early 30’s and can remember being hit with a cane on the hand a few times by a brother/teacher in primary school.

Not sure I’d call it abuse though, but also know I shouldn’t have been hit.

BuboBubo

Started school in 1979. Got slapped a bit, nothing life threatening. The corporal punishment ban was ignored by some teachers throughout the 1980's.

I remember one lad getting thrown across the room by a secondary school teacher (lay) in the early 90's. If the teacher did that nowadays, he'd be jailed.

meeeeh

professore wrote: »

Huh? Surely he couldn't see the low cut top while you were wiping the blackboard? The top of the class was a better vantage point? Also did you not have a school uniform?

I'm not Irish and we never had uniforms. It was quite funny because they got a retired teacher to sub for couple of months when ours had some procedure. He was complete moron, his method of teaching English was to demand we memorize the whole lesson in the book including instructions. Even using synonyms for the word that was in the book was marked down. He was allergic to certain usernames so they were constantly questioned and often marked negatively which was a bit annoying because your average had to be above 50% to pass the year. I was quite happy not to be noticed at all and made sure to wear more conservative clothes next time. Luckily when our teacher came back she just ignored his markings.

My previous response was joke but it was actually teachers like that who were almost encouraged before because it helped school's reputation of being demanding. It didn't matter that kids left school hating the subject and with very poor knowledge.

BBDBB

Only in hindsight would it now be called abuse

Its just the way it was

PlaneSpeeking

Putinbot wrote: »

I am left handed. In 3rd class in 1987 the teacher decided I was wrong and tried to make me write with my right hand. For 2 days I done no work as he wouldn't let me use my left and I couldn't even hold the pencil properly with my right.

My mother came down to the school and had words but he insisted. Then the next day my 6'2 all army tug of war champion father arrived down. Allowed use my left after that but the prick marked me down on writing ability every chance he got.

Fellow citog here! The nuns were brutal about that.

My mum (Scottish Baptist!!) faced the nun and said "didn't your God make everyone? So he made her left handed".

Nun was silent!!

Ultimate Seduction

Had a teacher blast a lunchbox off my head when I fell asleep in class in 2004. If I'd known what I know now, I'd still be on the floor in agony

amcalester

BBDBB wrote: »

Only in hindsight would it now be called abuse

Its just the way it was

This.

I knew from my older brother which teachers were hitters and which weren’t, which would drag you by the ears etc.

Never thought more of it than, don’t let such and such catch you or you’ll get the cane.

Ken.

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Fellow citog here! The nuns were brutal about that.

My mum (Scottish Baptist!!) faced the nun and said "didn't your God make everyone? So he made her left handed".

Nun was silent!!

My mother got very lucky in her school days. She is also left handed(as are both my brothers) and 3 of the nuns who thought her were also left handed so she was left alone all through her schooling.

My grandmother use to have her final primary school report up till a few years ago.

On it at the end the principal had added a note.

"Margret is the best backwards writer I have ever seen in all my 35 years of teaching".

corner of hells

Lane Many Meteorite wrote: »

I went to a Christian brothers school (I'll get that out of the way first).

Sexually, no.

But they were a shower of violent bastards, and there's more than a few I'd love to get my fvcking hands on now. I'd fvcking beat them to within an inch of their lives.

[This was back in the early to late 70's to mid 80's]

I'm about the same age as yourself and went to an all boys primary and secondary Christian Brothers school.

I was kicked , punched , beaten with a ruler , a metre stick and a bamboo in both primary and secondary and even now there's two teachers I'd quite happily beat senseless .

To anyone who thinks it does no harm , let me give you this example.
I went to school with the son of a prominent Dublin footballer who was so traumatised by the behaviour of teachers that's it's only now a the age of 49 he's able to function as an adult.
Well educated , intelligent however incapable of maintaining a relationship , or employment and finally diagnosed with depression and PTSD after years of self medicating with alcohol.
I know all this because I'm still friends with him.

In saying thatI've had some brilliant teachers who never needed to get physical or even shout .

Owryan

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Corporal punishment wasn't banned until 1982, imagine that - adults were free to cane children when Adam And the Ants were in the charts.

I can remember getting whacked with a ruler in 1987.

I'm left handed, for some reason this was seen as fixable so my left hand was tapped to a piece of wood so I couldn't write with it. I was forced to write with my right hand and if it wasn't perfect I was punished.

Got a lot of punishment for that.

PlaneSpeeking

Why do so many people hate us left handers ????

corner of hells

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Why do so many people hate us left handers ????

Because we're magical with special powers.

Mutant z

Corporal punishment was well before my time so no but some of the teachers i had were certainly assholes.

Ash.J.Williams

Sonics2k wrote: »

I had one right prick of a teacher in 3rd class. I'd only moved over from England about a year previously and obviously had an accent.

He used to chuck things me, threw me against a wall twice (literally did this), would call me "a little English cúnt" and would encourage some of the other kids to bully me. I got jumped by a bunch of lads one day, and he stood there and watched from the top of the stairs, when I walked past him a few minutes later with a big cut on my head he casually points towards the nurses office and went back on his lunch.

This was in the early 90's.

Was bloody delighted to get out of that school.

For early 90s that sounds unbelievable, but a guy in my year had the same problem with a christian brother, on the first day of first year he stood waiting for him at the front door to abuse him coz he had the first 10years of his life in England. Absolute lunacy.

amcalester

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Why do so many people hate us left handers ????

The word sinister is derived from the Latin for left.

Whatever the reason is, it goes back a long time.

PlaneSpeeking

corner of hells wrote: »

PlaneSpeeking wrote: »

Why do so many people hate us left handers ????

Because we're magical with special powers.

Sshhhhh that's our secret!

py2006

I had a teacher in primary school who clearly had issues with men. Treated boys appallingly.

andekwarhola

Was in primary school before it was abolished and got strapped quite a few times or pulled up by the hair. It was pretty barbaric in retrospect but you just accepted it at the time.

Although corporal punishment was gone when I was on secondary school, one or two of the teachers would slam you up against the wall or even slap you in the face. Again, it something you're surprised at in retrospect, and in comparison to school nowadays, but not something you thought out of the ordinary at the time.

Ursus Horribilis

I was in primary school in the 80s. We used to sometimes get a slap on the hand with a ruler which didn't hurt at all. It was more the embarrassment of it than anything else. I think the head nun used to sometimes slap kids on the backside if they had done something wrong. No caning or straps though. I don't have anything particularly bad to say about the school I went to and I don't have any evil nun stories to tell. Sorry.

Skatedude

Kids been sent to hospital with broken fingers was common enough in my school due to the yard stick. Myself included, But nothing ever done to stop it as the christian brothers were above the law at the time. Guards would refuse to take any complaint or statement against them. This was both before and after the banning of corporal punishment.

Beasty

Got caned when I was 9 or 10. Certainly felt it that day....

pickarooney

Beasty wrote: »

Got caned when I was 9 or 10. Certainly felt it that day....

Starting on the ching fairly young.