Double time on Monday for my cleaner?

sbs2010

I've a cleaner who does 3 hours every Monday. Do I have to pay her double time on the bank holiday?

davo10

sbs2010 wrote: »

I've a cleaner who does 3 hours every Monday. Do I have to pay her double time on the bank holiday?

Do you, or should you on a bank holiday? I would, but it depends on how tight you are expecting a cleaner to come in on a bank holiday.

drunkmonkey

No for numerous reasons.

sbs2010

Cute Davo.

Cleaner said she was available and did I want her to come. That's all.

So is she entitled to double time? Simple question.

drunkmonkey

Nobody is entitled to double time only working 3hrs a week for you, she's self employed so not your problem. I very much doubt she's expecting double but ask her incase your putting her out by getting her Monday.

sbs2010

drunkmonkey wrote: »

Nobody is entitled to double time only working 3hrs a week for you, she's self employed so not your problem. I very much doubt she's expecting double but ask her incase your putting her out by getting her Monday.

Thanks for the sensible answer!

sbs2010

sbs2010 wrote: »

I've a cleaner who does 3 hours every Monday. Do I have to pay her double time on the bank holiday?

She's entitled to 20% of it off - or paid at a beneficial rate.

Tiddlypeeps

She is not your employee, she is a service provider (likely self employed but it's really irrelevant). You wouldn't pay a hairdresser double time for cutting your hair that day, or pay twice as much at a restaurant.

silent_spark

Deleted User wrote: »

She's entitled to 20% of it off - or paid at a beneficial rate.

Incorrect. Even if the cleaner was an employee, working just three hours a week does not entitle them to Bank Holiday pay.

dreamers75

Like normal people you could ask her to come in Tuesday at the normal rate.

I find it odd you are in a position of authority and dont know this.

Monokne

I have a cleaner who does mine on a Tuesday. In the unlikely scenario that *she* told *me* she was available to work on a BH (we'll say Paddy's Day for arguments sake) and offered to come, I'd just pay normal. As others have said, she is self employed.

And don't mind the people slating you, you can't ask anything on boards without someone feeling the need to feel better about themselves by putting others down unfortunately.

sbs2010

Monokne wrote: »

I have a cleaner who does mine on a Tuesday. In the unlikely scenario that *she* told *me* she was available to work on a BH (we'll say Paddy's Day for arguments sake) and offered to come, I'd just pay normal. As others have said, she is self employed.

And don't mind the people slating you, you can't ask anything on boards without someone feeling the need to feel better about themselves by putting others down unfortunately.

Thanks M
I get what you're saying.
And thanks to those who answered the question without their little dig.

And as I'm not "the better person" I need to have one more response for dreamer and his buddies - what the hell are you on about?

As far as I know she's got regular clients so she's got clients she cleans for on Tues, Wed etc.
She asked me if i wanted her to come this Monday. That suits me. I asked you people if normal pay was correct.
What has authority, normal people and how tight I am got to do with any of that?

CeilingFly

Deleted User wrote: »

She's entitled to 20% of it off - or paid at a beneficial rate.

20% of it?

Where on earth did you get this - I've been employing people for over 30 years and never heard anything like this.

If cleaner is self employed, then whatever contracted rate is paid.

If cleaner is employed by the op (very unlikely) as a staff member, then they'd have to have worked a minimum of 40 hours in the five weeks preceeding the bank holiday to have any entitlement.

duffman13

CeilingFly wrote: »

20% of it?

Where on earth did you get this - I've been employing people for over 30 years and never heard anything like this.

If cleaner is self employed, then whatever contracted rate is paid.

If cleaner is employed by the op (very unlikely) as a staff member, then they'd have to have worked a minimum of 40 hours in the five weeks preceeding the bank holiday to have any entitlement.

The other poster is getting mixed up completely, 20% in terms of time in lieu is given for people who don't normally work Monday but get bank holiday entitlements. They are entitled to 20% of their contracted hours so they too benefit from it. Alternatively people in certain industries (retail, healthcare, hospitality) may be fostered to work but give a different day off to compensate.

To the original poster, she's not an employee, she sounds like a sole trader so Id clarify she's happy to work for the usual rate which i expect she will be.

fritzelly

Self employed - they set the rates, don't wanna employ her at the rate on that date then don't employ her
This is not rocket science, be different if you were working for a company where you had contractual hours.