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Bramble infestation

  • 04-05-2018 5:33am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭


    I renovated an old house now its time to renovate the garden but it's over run with brambles, I've slashed what I could but I think I need to poison the rest, what can I use that will allow grass seed to grow a few weeks later?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,439 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    I've been told to just dig it out, was pouring round up on it, was told it would have very little effect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭Luckysasha


    Only job is to dig it out well below root level. Had a similar problem and tried everything suggested to me even diesel lol. Ended up hiring a mini digger and clearing the whole lot . Took it down to roughly a foot below the last of the roots and backfilled it with clean top soil. Haven’t had an issue since


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Selective sprays definitely work without all that digging.

    Here I the farm we spray them with a more commercial product Grazon90 and it obliterates them.

    I’d suggest cut everything back to ground level and remove what you can.

    Allow drag regroth of everything for a few weeks.

    Then onto the fresh growth with brushwood or similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    _Brian wrote: »
    Here I the farm we spray them with a more commercial product Grazon90 and it obliterates them.
    I can see why that's commercial only, contains Clopyralid. Wikipedia quotes...

    "It is particularly damaging to peas, tomatoes and sunflowers and can render potatoes, lettuce and spinach inedible...Clopyralid is known for its ability to persist in dead plants and compost, and has accumulated to phytotoxic levels in finished compost in a few highly publicized cases"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭jones 19


    _Brian wrote: »
    Selective sprays definitely work without all that digging.

    Here I the farm we spray them with a more commercial product Grazon90 and it obliterates them.

    I’d suggest cut everything back to ground level and remove what you can.

    Allow drag regroth of everything for a few weeks.

    Then onto the fresh growth with brushwood or similar.

    Is Grazon 90 easy get? and what's drag regroth mean? Mini digger may be an option but I need to retain the soil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Autocorrect, fresh regrowth is what I meant.

    With that you have more green sappy flesh for chemical to absorb into and the plant is in a high growth phase which circulates the chemical quicker and more thoroughly for a better kill.

    Grazon90 is commercial use only, you can buy it in an Agri Stores but your supposed to be trained to apply and there would be implications if your caught.

    Digging would require removing huge volumes of soil to eliminate bramble roots, that’s for a few brambles. If you say the area is infested it’s not really an option. I don’t like spraying near my house but sometimes needs must.

    Protect yourself with gloves and a mask, mix and spray carefully as selective weed killers kill EVERYTHING except grass, and if you overmix too much it will damage grass too. Keep kids and pets away for the recommended time, clean all equipment with plenty of fresh water.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,222 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Grazon90 seems like massive overkill for garden clearance in a domestic dwelling.

    I got rid of a large amount of brambles last year without any spraying, and while there are a few shoots popping up here and there they are either getting mown (if in the lawn) or pulled out (if in the hedge line), it's in no way onerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,721 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    Lumen wrote: »
    Grazon90 seems like massive overkill for garden clearance in a domestic dwelling.

    I got rid of a large amount of brambles last year without any spraying, and while there are a few shoots popping up here and there they are either getting mown (if in the lawn) or pulled out (if in the hedge line), it's in no way onerous.

    Grazon90 isn’t for gardens it’s commercial.
    Brushwood is the domestic equivalent and it’s very effective and safe if used correctly.

    Digging is an option but not over large areas where roots have been allowed get established over a period of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,095 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    An article that I was reading said that brambles do not make new growth from the roots. They grow from a 'node' just underground, and also by attaching/rooting tips of brambles to the ground. If you could get up the node you did not need to go after the roots.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,216 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Surely a mini digger is

    A. More fun

    B. Far less toxic to your health and that of the garden.



    I'd rent the digger


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    Lumen wrote: »
    I got rid of a large amount of brambles last year without any spraying, and while there are a few shoots popping up here and there they are either getting mown (if in the lawn) or pulled out (if in the hedge line), it's in no way onerous.

    Second that

    Regular mowing and manual removal of the the odd particularly pesky shoot makes brambles disappear.

    Different story if you want to plant something other than grass...as soon as brambles find something to hide behind (from the mower) and cling to, they'll grow like mad again.


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