Kanye - Slavery a choice?

Pelvis

Not really one for paying any attention to this numpty but I just saw the clip of him from yesterday speaking about slavery, and wow! My jaw almost hit the floor!!

Details @ http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43970903

The brief cringe inducing silence after his comment, and then he just starts babbling, probably coming to terms with the gaping hole he just dug for himself!

razorblunt

Bring back the "they'll do anything for a Klondike. Well, I'll do anything for a blonde dyke" Kanye.


The lad needs to be sat down, he's disappeared right up his own hole.
Have you seen those "yeezy" Adidas trainers, absolute muck yet they're flying out the door.

jacksie66

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tigger123

He's probably jumped the shark with that comment.

jimmycrackcorm

That lad has probably doesn't use busses, never mind be asked to give up his seat.

BattleCorp

It's unfortunate that being famous gives airtime to gobsh1tes like him.

wes

The man has lost it. Blaming the victims of slavery is pretty messed up. There are still people forced into slavery today and I am not just talking about ISIS, but Human traffickers who still enslave people to this day.

Blaming the victim like this is pretty nasty and its amazing that he is actually claiming that what he is saying free thinking or a new idea, white supremacists have been saying that kind of crap for years.

DrumSteve

Honestly I think the death of his ma is what prompted the his spiraling to his current mental state.

It’s ok for him to have a different opinion on things, but it’s seems like he’s on the verge of a mental breakdown again.

El_Duderino 09

He has 2 albums coming out next month and he has released 2 singles in the last couple of weeks.

This tells me 2 things:
1. I don’t know how album drops work anymore.

2. He’s mad for attention around the time of his album drops.

verycool

Well, look at all this free publicity and advertising for some new crap he's going to be putting out shortly. :pac:

^ what El Duderino said.

Lucas Hood

He's mad.

Listen to his first album and then listen to what he says nowadays and he's changed a lot.

He was humble back then now he's just an entitled arsêhole.

Agricola

Kanye on Ireland:

"800 years! Naw dawwg, that sound like a choice! 800 years! You people loved them Brits!"

w/s/p/c/

The man is a complete tit, always was, always will be!

Odhinn

Pelvis wrote: »

Not really one for paying any attention to this numpty but I just saw the clip of him from yesterday speaking about slavery, and wow! My jaw almost hit the floor!!

Details @ http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43970903

The brief cringe inducing silence after his comment, and then he just starts babbling, probably coming to terms with the gaping hole he just dug for himself!

He has a mental illness, so a kick up the hole would be harsh.



Unless a doctor did it, then it'd be fair enough.

The Floyd p

“When I saw Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill, that’s when I wanted to use bitcoin. It’s like all the slave movies. Why you gotta keep reminding us about slavery? Why don’t you put Michael Jordan on the $20 bill?”

Thought that was kinda funny tbf.

silverharp

I bet its taken out of context, fake news

Enochwasright

He should have known better than to use a metaphor now that he had questioned the democrats, he will be misquoted and context removed, he is questioning the victim mentality black people in America have today thanks to the democrats convincing them they have no self accountability or chance to maintain their votes, the evidence is there, black people are being slaughtered at an alarming rate by other blacks yet the democrats ignore this to focus their rage on trivial yet easily made viral stuff like the recent Starbucks incident. Black people need to help themselves and throw of the shackles the democrats chained them with so long ago and free thinkers like kanye will be the modern chain breakers!

Tabnabs

He's clearly "on a journey" to be quoting the work of Thomas Sowell. That won't go down well in the liberal arts community.

Diemos

He's such a gay fish.

goose2005

The Floyd p wrote: »

“When I saw Harriet Tubman on the $20 bill, that’s when I wanted to use bitcoin. It’s like all the slave movies. Why you gotta keep reminding us about slavery? Why don’t you put Michael Jordan on the $20 bill?”

Thought that was kinda funny tbf.

but isn't he criticising black people for laying down and accepting slavery - and now he doesn't want to be reminded of someone who DIDN'T lay down and accept slavery?

Hector Savage

He was talking about modern people being stuck in the mindset of slavery as a choice - obviously not the slavery of 300 years ago.

And yes I'm aware slavery exists today, but he was addressing this victim mentality BLM victim victim victim victim movement you see nowadays ...

Icsics

Kris Jenner must be fuming....damaging the 'brand' like that!

AnneFrank

he loves fish sticks

Ulysses Gaze

My initial thought was he was either high or on the sauce when he said it. Or both.

But maybe being married into the Kardashian clan has turned him bat**** insane?

markodaly

Another big deal about nothing.

He references 400 years of Slavery, were there African slaves in America before America was even discovered by Europeans? I think what he was trying to say, was to counter act the victim mentality that still pervades the African - American community still today.

You can choose to be a victim or choose not to be.

CrankyHaus

On one level you have to give him credit for high-end trolling. He's the middle class son of an academic who raps about his own existential crises and never even paid lip service to the usual Hip-Hop glorification of guns and gangsters, yet he's consistently been one of the most controversial people in rap.

MadYaker

The man had a serious mental breakdown last year and is on a lot of medication, he isn't well and I'm not sure why his family are allowing him to do interviews.

erica74

Attention seeking, it's a PR stunt, he's a real kardashian now:pac:

bnt

There might be a legitimate academic question in there somewhere, one that could be asked about apartheid too e.g. “how the hell could you let that happen to you as a people?” I’m not the one to ask it ... and by the sounds of things, neither is Kanye.

mcmoustache

That boy aint right.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Kanye West gets too much attention. He also strikes me as racist.

Billy86

He is very talented and hard working at what he does, but the guy is an idiot and typical narcissist - he doesn't care whatever it is that he's saying at any given time so long as people are listening. If people outright ignored him, I wouldn't be surprised to see the guy smear his own sh** all over himself and run down the middle of Times Square naked just so people would notice him and pay attention.

sbsquarepants

His first couple of albums were shít hot - you've gotta give him that. Nowadays - not so much. Can still bang out a tune every now and then though. I seen himself and Jay Z in the point a few years back (watch the throne) and it was one of the best gigs I've ever been too.
But he's still an asshole, always was, always will be!

Grayson

markodaly wrote: »

Another big deal about nothing.

He references 400 years of Slavery, were there African slaves in America before America was even discovered by Europeans? I think what he was trying to say, was to counter act the victim mentality that still pervades the African - American community still today.

You can choose to be a victim or choose not to be.

I don't think Kanye is capable of coming up with something that nuanced. Than again maybe it's because I don't have dragon energy like him and trump.

Outlaw Pete

Streep and a few others recently got criticized for suggesting the same (that slavery was a choice) with some tshirts they wore with a suffragette quote on it.


https://twitter.com/fariharoisin/status/651076046054367232

Pixelbastardo

Lucas Hood wrote: »

He's mad.

Listen to his first album and then listen to what he says nowadays and he's changed a lot.

He was humble back then now he's just an entitled arsêhole.

Humble ? i dont think so.

Skip to 4:00
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4SYIfhzMmU

riffmongous

Well whoop de scoop. Whoopity poop poop scoop

mcmoustache

Outlaw Pete wrote: »

Streep and a few others recently got criticized for suggesting the same (that slavery was a choice) with some tshirts they wore with a suffragette quote on it.


https://twitter.com/fariharoisin/status/651076046054367232

Exactly. The type of people complaining about Kanye's use of this were clearly consistent in their objections, even when a bunch of liberals were at it.

Franz Von Peppercorn

markodaly wrote: »

Another big deal about nothing.

He references 400 years of Slavery, were there African slaves in America before America was even discovered by Europeans? I think what he was trying to say, was to counter act the victim mentality that still pervades the African - American community still today.

You can choose to be a victim or choose not to be.

Yes he’s saying slavery is in the mind now.

I would leave this debate to African Americans or even Americans myself. The Irish liberal and his “cop yourself on black man with your ideas” is an attitude that maybe reveals more than it thinks.

_Brian

This is a perfect example where someone becomes “famous” for one single thing like being a musician, and then over time deluded themselves into thinking that they have a legitimate opinion on everything and that somehow what they think about things is somehow important or factual.

He shot his mouth off without actually thinking about the content or implications of what he was saying, he just wanted to be heard saying something.

It probably feeds on when they see people like mr trump being president and allowed to have empty opinions on important topics, they think they can do the same, and they often do have completely idiotic meaningless opinions that were better never heard.

Franz Von Peppercorn

_Brian wrote: »

This is a perfect example where someone becomes “famous” for one single thing like being a musician, and then over time deluded themselves into thinking that they have a legitimate opinion on everything and that somehow what they think about things is somehow important or factual.

He shot his mouth off without actually thinking about the content or implications of what he was saying, he just wanted to be heard saying something.

It probably feeds on when they see people like mr trump being president and allowed to have empty opinions on important topics, they think they can do the same, and they often do have completely idiotic meaningless opinions that were better never heard.

Or he believes what he is saying. That people should throw away a slave mentality.

Boom_Bap

_Brian wrote: »

This is a perfect example where someone becomes “famous” for one single thing like being a musician, and then over time deluded themselves into thinking that they have a legitimate opinion on everything and that somehow what they think about things is somehow important or factual.

He shot his mouth off without actually thinking about the content or implications of what he was saying, he just wanted to be heard saying something.

It probably feeds on when they see people like mr trump being president and allowed to have empty opinions on important topics, they think they can do the same, and they often do have completely idiotic meaningless opinions that were better never heard.

I think that's wrong, he said something which was not properly measured or delivered properly and the outrage brigade are latching onto it.
But if you actually try to look at what he is saying, I think that he has his point that he wants to make....not about 400 years of slavery, more about that African Americans need to break the slavery mindset of today to break glass ceilings.

He done an interview a couple of weeks ago which was released in the last 24 hours. It's 1 hour 45 minutes long and watching that has given me more insight into what he actually meant.

There is also a line on a recent song where he says something like people are only looking at headlines and not the fine print.
I believe this is a case of that now and with some of his other comments recently.

Then it comes down to me agreeing with him...that's a whole other story.

riffmongous

They were still slaves.. in the mind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2o7V1f7lbk4

Boom_Bap

^ One of the greatest movies of all time. I just found my DVD copy of it yesterday!

MESSAGE!

riffmongous

Boom_Bap wrote: »

^ One of the greatest movies of all time. I just found my DVD copy of it yesterday!

MESSAGE!

It's one hilarious scene after another!

The Man!