Hanging coat rack on MDF

boardtc

I have a coat rack come down twice on me now, the most recent time it lasted over a year. I had it screwed and gorrila glued onto MDF but the weight of coats eventually peeled it off. See picture where I am holding up the back of the coat rack under where it fell off:

Any advice on getting it to stay up forever?

Payton

Dont over load it with coats!
When fixing it to the wall make sure your drilling through the brickwork useing the correct rawplugs and screws.

Are you sure that's not just plasterboard?

Tokyo

Looking at the residue on the screw, and the breakout on the board, that doesn't look like MDF, but rather, plain old plasterboard.

Find the studs behind the plasterboard and screw into that.

Sleeper12

Screws will pull out of it with any weight.

It would be good little stronger if you drilled holes & plugged them rather than the screw directly into the wood

my3cents

Get a coat stand.


You probably need an industrial one pictured above.

Wishbone Ash

The Gorilla Glue won't really work on paint/plaster as the paint/plaster will just detach from what it's attached to.

boardtc

Apologies for the poor description. It's definitely MDF and unfortunately, there is only air behind it. I put a 10cm long nail through the screw hole to double check and nothing but air :-(

colm_c

Just use some good plasterboard anchors that expand behind the MDF, to anchor it properly.

https://www.goodwins.ie/products/metal-cavity-anchor-m5x45mm-pack-4-3435240.html?filter_set[]=11,439

No need for glue.

I have these to hold my coat rack in plasterboard for the last 3 years, and no problems.

boardtc

Thanks, @colm_c, you reckon they would anchor against the back of the MDF is it? Again I have just the standard thickness MDF I am attaching to, nothing but air behind.

the_pen_turner

doesnt look like mdf but il take your word

put it back in position. move it slightly to avoid the old hole. draw around it . sand off the paint. sand all the glue off the back of hanger. get gorrila glue or pu5 , follow directions and use plenty of it. put a screw in each hole.

my3cents

If its mdf it won't be sat there defying gravity it will still be fixed to some form of batten just like plasterboard so I'd be finding the battens and screwing into them rather then just the "mdf".

boardtc

Here's the top of the wall showing where the mdf ends if that helps convince!

my3cents

I'm not convinced in fact I'd put money on that being plasterboard from the pictures so far.

Tokyo

boardtc wrote: »

Here's the top of the wall showing where the mdf ends if that helps convince!

At risk of annoying you here, but I'm not convinced that's MDF - it looks like a niche that's been sheeted off with plasterboard.

Payton

Buy a good coat rack.

TheShow

thats not MDF, its just plasterboard. drill holes and use plugs which anchor behind the plasterboard. - toggles or plasterboard fixings.

Something like this:

https://www.woodies.ie/diy/screws-and-fixings/fixings/rawlplug-plasterboard-plug-pack-of-100-1002942

boardtc

Ok. Can we put this to bed please! I was there when it was constructed, the space under the states was closed of separating a new toilet and a closet.

TheShow

The white residue on the screw is plaster.
A screw would hold pretty well in MDF, it will not hold in plasterboard, particulary when its being yanked by coats.

Either way, if you can, screw into the studs or else use the plugs and they will anchor at the back of whatever material it is. Then it should not come out unless there is some serious weight hanging off the coat rack.

colm_c

boardtc wrote: »

Thanks, @colm_c, you reckon they would anchor against the back of the MDF is it? Again I have just the standard thickness MDF I am attaching to, nothing but air behind.

Should work fine, there's a few versions of these plugs, but once you have an anchor behind, can't see it not holding.

boardtc

TheShow wrote: »

The white residue on the screw is plaster.
A screw would hold pretty well in MDF, it will not hold in plasterboard, particularly when its being yanked by coats.

Either way, if you can, screw into the studs or else use the plugs and they will anchor at the back of whatever material it is. Then it should not come out unless there is some serious weight hanging off the coat rack.

Thanks. I was there when the mdf was cut and I can put my hands around the top and feel the mdf, knock on it too and hear would. The residue you see it breaking through the paint I guess.

I'll double check re batons but plan on the plugs anyway. Thanks!

boardtc

my3cents wrote: »

Get a coat stand.
You probably need an industrial one pictured above.

cuckooland indeed!!:pac:

boardtc

mike_ie wrote: »

At risk of annoying you here, but I'm not convinced that's MDF - it looks like a niche that's been sheeted off with plasterboard.

@mike_ie @BrownFinger @my3cents

and the muppet of the year award goes to @boardtc, myself. Jaysus, talk about presumptuous, know it all, I was there when the work was done, mdf everywhere but like you say he divides the area off with plasterboard.

Ye guys saw the clues. Apologies for all the dissing. Previously when I did the job I was 100% sure it was pdf and just screwed straight in, unreal.

The plasterboard plugs from woodies worked a treat, thanks all.