Community spirit in NI

scooby77

The PSNI issued an appeal yesterday for help locating to wanted men. Community spirit in Armagh kicked in anf the locals when over and above to help the police with their inquiries:

https://www.rte.ie/news/ulster/2018/0429/958998-north-wanted-men/

aaakev

A good outcome if what iv read about them online is true

OldMrBrennan83

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timthumbni

What sort of crime were those 2 involved in?

corner of hells

Patww79 wrote: »

Great to see. We need more of that here too as the Gardaí aren't interested in sorting things.

Extra judicial beatings ? Sure wasn't that all the rage up North for years.

NIMAN

Convicted paedophiles I think.

fermanagh_man

they got off lightly.
Could have just as easily been put in the back of a van

dobman88

timthumbni wrote: »

What sort of crime were those 2 involved in?

They're paedophiles

wexie

PSNI Chief Inspector Jill Duffie said she understood that "feelings in the area had been running high" over the search for the men, and added that the PSNI will be investigating the assault and working to identify anyone involved.

Hope they won't work too hard on this

timthumbni

dobman88 wrote: »

timthumbni wrote: »

What sort of crime were those 2 involved in?

They're paedophiles

I thought so. As such it’s tough titties for them then. My heart does not bleed.

OldMrBrennan83

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McMurphy

corner of hells wrote: »

Extra judicial beatings ? Sure wasn't that all the rage up North for years.

Hardly exclusively restricted to the North to be fair.

malinheader

The psni are investigating the assault on the two in question. Should take around 5 seconds I hope.

Gwynplaine

Communiddy

BBDBB

Patww79 wrote: »

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Interesting story, is there any update on what the situation is like now?
ie has it worked? has it made it worse? or did it just put a lid on it for a while?

Mint Sauce

Hopefully the PSNI got a slap or two in as well when they resisted arrest.

JCX BXC

I note that they have good community PSNI Facebook pages in the community, with good engagement with the local people also on this. I think it's very positive.

OldMrBrennan83

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Roger Hassenforder

Patww79 wrote: »

There has been a dramatic improvement.

What became of the gang? They just move off?

Captain Obvious

The lads will be released form hospital and go about their merry way to molest more kids. Any kind of evidence on their person or forensic evidence is tainted.

Huexotzingo

Jesus!

Class of 82

Seen this on my FB feed yesterday evening. Unsurprisingly a huge amount of positive comments below it.

Over the last number of months, mainly through social media, I am seeing increasing numbers of people taking tackling paedophiles into their own hands eg the 'stings' that are broadcasted online.

NIMAN

Yeah, seems to be a special kind of hatred reserved for the paedo's, maybe rightly due to the nature of their crimes. Although it doesn't stop a lot of these people continuing to be part of a church which harboured and aided large numbers of paedo's for many decades. Still, thats logic I simply will never understand.

But people in NI do seem to have a more tolerant view to vigilantes and taking the law into their own hands.

Class of 82

NIMAN wrote: »

Yeah, seems to be a special kind of hatred reserved for the paedo's, maybe rightly due to the nature of their crimes. Although it doesn't stop a lot of these people continuing to be part of a church which harboured and aided large numbers of paedo's for many decades. Still, thats logic I simply will never understand.

But people in NI do seem to have a more tolerant view to vigilantes and taking the law into their own hands.[/QUOTE]

Agree. There has been a culture for many years (actually, since creation of the state) in places like south Armagh to sort out their own issues rather than engage with the police.

I do think though if a similar action took place in Dublin for example, the reaction wouldn't be much different.

suicide_circus

Captain Obvious wrote: »

The lads will be released form hospital and go about their merry way to molest more kids. Any kind of evidence on their person or forensic evidence is tainted.

Are they nonces?

NIMAN

Yeah, but some of the heavy handed vigilantes doing these sorts of things are also selling drugs into their communities and wrecking young peoples lives.

Kinda double standards? Or is selling drugs ok but being a paedo makes you lowest of the low?

Captain Obvious

Class of 82 wrote: »

Agree. There has been a culture for many years (actually, since creation of the state) in places like south Armagh to sort out their own issues rather than engage with the police.

I do think though if a similar action took place in Dublin for example, the reaction wouldn't be much different.

It did happen in Dublin.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/convicted-paedophile-anthony-luckwill-hiding-7965255

A hated paedophile is in hiding tonight after being beaten up.
Warped Anthony Luckwill, 43, was given a beating after furious parents found his lair - just yards from a Dublin primary school.

suicide_circus

"Found his lair" aka "found his home"

Franz Von Peppercorn

Here’s the problem with vigilantism

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/bristol-men-lee-james-stephen-4154

NIMAN

Even more dangerous in this Facebook world we live in, where people will believe every single word they are fed without questioning.

Look at all the truths that came out about that 'poor young girl' who got battered in Bangor last week. Lot of people left looking very stupid after the event.

Comic Book Guy

NIMAN wrote: »

Even more dangerous in this Facebook world we live in, where people will believe every single word they are fed without questioning.

Look at all the truths that came out about that 'poor young girl' who got battered in Bangor last week. Lot of people left looking very stupid after the event.

Hadn't followed that story bar the main headlines. What subsequently came out about the victim?

malinheader

NIMAN wrote: »

Even more dangerous in this Facebook world we live in, where people will believe every single word they are fed without questioning.

Look at all the truths that came out about that 'poor young girl' who got battered in Bangor last week. Lot of people left looking very stupid after the event.

Agree totally Facebook can be dangerous as well as helpfull. But in the case of these two a statement issued by the gardai labelled them very dangerous and high risk.I think people were right to keep track of these two.

It's more than a bit disturbing how people can be so blasé at best, positively impressed at worst, at groups of anonymous people ganging up and deciding to be judge, jury and executioner.

Some poor man visiting Monasterevin last summer was set upon because somebody posted on Facebook that he was a wanted paedophile and a local gang decided online to get together and teach him a lesson. The anonymous illiterate who originally posted the "alert" to Facebook defended her actions by saying "It's better to be safe than sorry". That's the level, right there.

There are so, so, so many really stupid people out there, people without the wit to have moral bearings. Sheer self-interest should dictate that we all oppose unaccountable, anonymous people taking the law into their own hands, based on the Martin Niemöller experience, which to paraphrase can be something like 'First they came for the alleged paedophiles but I didn't do anything because I wasn't an alleged paedophile....Then they came for me and... there was nobody left to stand up."

The Irish Times: 'Woman defends wrongly identifying man as sex offender'

Captain Obvious

Captain Obvious wrote: »

It did happen in Dublin.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/convicted-paedophile-anthony-luckwill-hiding-7965255

The most outstanding part of that article is that there are two journalists, one named Claire Scott and the other named Pat Flanagan, who think so little of the intelligence of their readers that they refer to people having "found his lair" when they mean "found his home".

There really is a disproportionately shocking number of completely predatory crypto-fascist cúnts in journalism who would love nothing more than the power buzz of being responsible for rousing up every last knacker in society into demonising some section of society.

FanadMan

Patww79 wrote: »

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Typical Sun reporting - there's no apostrophe in Hells Angels

donegaLroad

2 convicted pedophiles on the run decide to head to South Armagh. They are definitely not members of Mensa.