Manual tuning RTE1 on LG TV

flanzer

Guys, I'm trying to tune my TV to Saorview using an aerial, but it can't find RTE1 using the auto tune facility. Can it be manually tuned?

The signal is good too:


Would anyone know the settings to manual tune it? I'm based in Dublin 13

The Cush

You're auto tuning Ch.30 so Three Rock transmitter based on your location. RTÉ1 is carried on Mux2 which is Ch.33 from Three Rock. I don't own an LG TV so I'm not sure how to do a manual tune on that TV.

Also try Ch.58 from Kippure.

What type of aerial are you using, indoor/roof? Signal may not be good enough for the other frequency to auto tune due to aerial location/position.

http://www.2rn.ie/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/2RN-DTT-Television-Transmission-Network-Sep-2014.pdf
https://www.saorview.ie/en/get/coverage

Jeff2

Is the aerial facing south and near a window or outside.?

flanzer

The aerial is one for all rabbit ear/amplified type indoor aerial. I'm 27km from from Kippure according to the coverage map. I've spare coax going from the downstairs room to the attic, from when I had UPC. I'm thinking I may have to use it for a loft aerial.

Would anyone have any suggestions for a loft aerial? Or are they worth it?

The Cush

Use the aerial you have to test the signal in the attic. The extra height alone may improve reception.

flanzer

The Cush wrote: »

Use the aerial you have to test the signal in the attic. The extra height alone may improve reception.

Great minds! I'm just back from trying it, and I still don't get RTE1 :(

The Cush

flanzer wrote: »

Great minds! I'm just back from trying it, and I still don't get RTE1 :(

Strange that considering the signal strength for the other mux wasn't too bad from Three Rock previously.

What kind of readings are you getting with the aerial in the attic?

Stuff such as plumbing, insulation, etc. in the attic can interfere with radio signals

Jeff2

It's mad that I just have a pliers connected to a wire to get it on LG TV.

flanzer

The Cush wrote: »

Strange that considering the signal strength for the other mux wasn't too bad from Three Rock previously.

What kind of readings are you getting with the aerial in the attic?

Stuff such as plumbing, insulation, etc. in the attic can interfere with radio signals

I'm getting the same results in the attic. CH 33 seems to be the issue though. 30 is fine. 33 gives me the odd 50-60% strength, but with 0% quality. Would mounting a high gain aerial fix that?

The Cush

flanzer wrote: »

I'm getting the same results in the attic. CH 33 seems to be the issue though. 30 is fine. 33 gives me the odd 50-60% strength, but with 0% quality. Would mounting a high gain aerial fix that?

Which transmitter is recommended by the coverage checker for your location, Three Rock or Kippure?

A proper aerial may return a better result, test in the attic, can be moved outside if not good enough in the attic.

This aerial for Three Rock - www.freetv.ie/red-group-a-uhf-aerial/
This aerial for Kippure - www.freetv.ie/black-wide-band-uhf-aerial/

flanzer

The Cush wrote: »

Which transmitter is recommended by the coverage checker for your location, Three Rock or Kippure?

A proper aerial may return a better result, test in the attic, can be moved outside if not good enough in the attic.

This aerial for Three Rock - www.freetv.ie/red-group-a-uhf-aerial/
This aerial for Kippure - www.freetv.ie/black-wide-band-uhf-aerial/

Coverage checker says it's Kippure, but I'm closer to Three Rock



I'm guessing the coverage checker is wrong, as I can't even pick up anything on CH 54 or 58, using my rabbit ears

The Cush

flanzer wrote: »

Coverage checker says it's Kippure, but I'm closer to Three Rock

I'm guessing the coverage checker is wrong, as I can't even pick up anything on CH 54 or 58, using my rabbit ears

Three Rock is basically an infill transmitter for south Dublin that can't get coverage from Kippure due to the terrain with signal dropping off beyond the primary coverage area. An external should receive a signal from both with Kippure probably the most reliable.

flanzer

So with a reposition of the rabbit ears in the attic, and a rejigging of some of the crap in the attic, I did a rescan and am now picking up 2 more channels, on CH 33 (including the missing RTE1!)

Thanks for your help. I'm still thinking of getting a red tipped UHF aerial from TV Trade Dave, as it makes a better job and I can run 1 or 2 more TVs off it

The Cush

flanzer wrote: »

So with a reposition of the rabbit ears in the attic, and a rejigging of some of the crap in the attic, I did a rescan and am now picking up 2 more channels, on CH 33 (including the missing RTE1!)

What's the signal strength/quality like? It should improve with a proper aerial.

flanzer

On Ch 30, strength is 90% and quality is hovering around 30%
On Ch 33, strength is 90% and quality is hovering around 75%

The Cush

flanzer wrote: »

On Ch 30, strength is 90% and quality is hovering around 30%
On Ch 33, strength is 90% and quality is hovering around 75%

30% quality on Ch.30 is quite low, strong possibility of picture disruption. At least you'll know the reason if it happens.

flanzer

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The Cush wrote: »

What's the signal strength/quality like? It should improve with a proper aerial.

Just an update, mounted the red tip aerial in the attic, and am getting 100% everything on channels 30 and 33!

Thanks Cush for the advice again

flanzer

flanzer wrote: »

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Just an update, mounted the red tip aerial in the attic, and am getting 100% everything on channels 30 and 33!

Thanks Cush for the advice again

Well another update :mad:.

Gone from 100% everything, back to 70-80% strength and 0% quality on both CH 30 and 33!!

What could that be??

The Cush

flanzer wrote: »

Gone from 100% everything, back to 70-80% strength and 0% quality on both CH 30 and 33!!

What could that be??

Hit and miss reception if located in the attic?
Kippure is the recommended transmitter for your location, maybe Three Rock is a bit flakey for an attic mounted aerial where you are? Externally mounted should improve reception.

Also is the signal split between different TV points in the house, if so how is this done?

flanzer

The Cush wrote: »

Hit and miss reception if located in the attic?
Kippure is the recommended transmitter for your location, maybe Three Rock is a bit flakey for an attic mounted aerial where you are? Externally mounted should improve reception.

Also is the signal split between different TV points in the house, if so how is this done?

I seem to be back again! There is one 2 way splitter between the aerial and the TV. The front TV will have one splitter also

Does the aerial have to be spot on with the direction like a satellite? I would have thought not considering those that pick up saorview using a coat hanger!!

I did take out the copper core an reset it again, and jigged the aerial around a bit, until the missus gave me a shout downstairs telling me it was back to 100% again!!

The Cush

flanzer wrote: »

I seem to be back again! There is one 2 way splitter between the aerial and the TV. The front TV will have one splitter also

Does the aerial have to be spot on with the direction like a satellite? I would have thought not considering those that pick up saorview using a coat hanger!!!

Splitters and badly made connections can affect/reduce the signal.

An aerial doesn't have to be as accurately pointed as a satellite dish, but there are 2 muxes/frequencies from each transmitter and the aerial should be aligned to get the best balance between the 2 frequencies, especially where the aerial is attic mounted and your location is outside the primary coverage area.

flanzer

The Cush wrote: »

Splitters and badly made connections can affect/reduce the signal.

An aerial doesn't have to be as accurately pointed as a satellite dish, but there are 2 muxes/frequencies from each transmitter and the aerial should be aligned to get the best balance between the 2 frequencies, especially where the aerial is attic mounted and your location is outside the primary coverage area.

Great to know. Thanks! It's holding out now. If it gives issues again, I'll get the white tip aerial for Kippure. Will hardly break the bank!

Again, thanks Cush

Johnboy1951

flanzer wrote: »

Great to know. Thanks! It's holding out now. If it gives issues again, I'll get the white tip aerial for Kippure. Will hardly break the bank!

Again, thanks Cush

Your previous post seems to indicate that what you need to to re-do all connections on the coax cables.
If those are at fault a new aerial will not help.

I did take out the copper core an reset it again, and jigged the aerial around a bit, until the missus gave me a shout downstairs telling me it was back to 100% again!!