Infrastructure and Dodgy Politics

cfuserkildare

Right, quick item to be Bandied about,

If our Taxation is based on maintaining Public Services, like eg Railways, Water, Roads etc, and the state has outsourced these public institutions to Private Companies, Then WHY ARE WE STILL BEING TAXED AT THE SAME RATES???

Opinions please?

Grayson

Because private companies don't work for free?

Riskymove

cfuserkildare wrote: »

and the state has outsourced these public institutions to Private Companies,

railways, water and roads have not been privatised

hmmm

Grayson wrote: »

Because private companies don't work for free?

Don't you be bringing sense into this thread.

garbo speaks

I think we should pay more tax.

seamus

It hasn't?

cantdecide

Not related to infrastructure but in the last few years I had a job that if a gun were put to your head and you were asked if I was a civil servant then you would have gotten shot. I worked there for minimum wage with no benefits.

It was a complex job with piss poor training and took at least six stressful months to come to terms with the legislative legacy issues against productivity targets. There was huge huge staff turnover and lots of mistakes being made and forgiven by "the client". The saving to the service users was nil but the client was saving something in the approaching half the cost per head in salaries while me and my colleagues were contributing next to nothing to the exchequer apart from saving the government the social welfare payments.

TL;DR government outsourcing contributes to white collar wage slavery and the poverty trap, and particularly contributes to the 'working poor' problem.

Fr_Dougal

Why does Dublin have to pay for the rest of the country?

Tabnabs

Even with efficiencies and low costs through outsourcing, do you really think the government is going to say, ah no we've too much of your money and can't think of anything else to spend it on, that's probably enough, but thanks...

VinLieger

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Right, quick item to be Bandied about,

If our Taxation is based on maintaining Public Services, like eg Railways, Water, Roads etc, and the state has outsourced these public institutions to Private Companies, Then WHY ARE WE STILL BEING TAXED AT THE SAME RATES???

Because none of this has happened

cfuserkildare wrote: »

Opinions please?

You don't know what you are talking about and have been reading too much conspiracy facebook posts

Balf

Is there any point in linking information on what public money is actually spent on?

Most of it goes on social welfare, health and education.

https://whereyourmoneygoes.gov.ie/en/2018/

riclad

10 billion goes on debt servicing ,eg paying interest on the billions we borrowed after the crash in 2007.
the state has contracts with companys to build and maintain roads .
It still has to pay the cost of the work.
Irish water will have to spend billions to repair pipes and fix leaks.
Many of the pipes are 50 years old at least.
Would you prefer if every road or bridge had a toll on it .?
The present system is not perfect but it works.
Many us states have cut taxs ,it doesnt work,
it leads to necessary infrastructure repairs not being done.
eg some schools in the usa are using textbooks that are 10 years old.