What has the Syrian war actually accomplished.

Mutant z

What has the Syrian war accomplished other than causing bloodshed and the rise of jihadis groups. Regime change is all well and good but what will replace it a Sharia state that will bring it back to the stone age clearly this doesnt seem to bother the west who have been so desperate to overthrow the Assad government even if that means arming headhacking terrorists which have been involved in the most henious crimes known to mankind. Its not that Assad is a dictator which is problem but the wrong sort of dictator who refuses to pander to western interests and hence he must be removed.

The fact is Syria is a much more progressive state than the majority of countries in that region especially Saudi Arabia which has never been marked for regime change by western powers, so they can spare us this faux outrage about dictatorships especially when the likes of the USA, UK and France are helping to arm another this is just another proxy war which the majority of the population of Europe and America is sick of but yet again western governments are ignoring their wishes and going all gung ho to bomb Syria and expecting everyone else to clean up the mess as they look on from the safety of their mansions.

Hande hoche!

Testing ground for weapons, both Western and Russian.

El Weirdo

Alright Edwin Starr.

Irish Praetorian

I think you might be mistaking the syrian civil war with western involvement in the syrian civil war. The population of syria and foreign fighters spent years blowing each other to pieces before the first western bombing arrived, if you want to know what its for ask them.

Mutant z

Irish Praetorian wrote: »

I think you might be mistaking the syrian civil war with western involvement in the syrian civil war. The population of syria and foreign fighters spent years blowing each other to pieces before the first western bombing arrived, if you want to know what its for ask them.

Yes but what good has western involvement done when its led to the rise of ISIS and Al Queda the US and others only care about stategic interests nothing to do with human rights its not a coincidence that its only enemy states like Syria and Libya that have been attacked, while Saudi and Bahrain which have among the worst human rights records on the planet are ignored i just wish western governments were honest about their intentions instead of hiding behind faux humanitarian concerns.

RandomName2

Hopefully it showed many Sunni Arabs the folly of Islamic extremism. ISIL wouldn't have gained traction had it not had a large base of support among Sunni Arabs throughout eastern Syria.

Those threatened by Islamic extremism: ethnic and religious minorities, secularists, and genuine liberals, were, and always will be, hostile to Islamic extremism. However, by actually having the logical conclusion of Islamic extremism made reality in the form of a small caliphate showed with unequal clarity what sort of life that would entail, even for those 'favored' by the extremeists. A barbaric life was inflicted upon the citizens in the 'Islamic State', where zealots had complete control, and every sentence written in Islamic texts was treated as law, and observed at the end an AK47.

It was not simply a case that US bombing created deprivation in the areas controlled by ISIL, but living under their flag in itself clearly meant living in constant fear. The actual mindset of the ISIL military was demonstrated for the world to see, not when they executed foreigners, not when they blew up sacred and ancient monuments, not when they said they would burn Europe to the ground, but when they fired on their own civilians because their fleeing meant that they had fewer human shields to hide behind.

If the Syrian War has achieved anything, hopefully it is to show Sunni Arabs that their enemy's enemy is not necessarily their friend.

Hande hoche!

Might as well make the mandatory mention of Israel.

Sierra Oscar

Mutant z wrote: »

Yes but what good has western involvement done when its led to the rise of ISIS and Al Queda the US and others only care about stategic interests nothing to do with human rights its not a coincidence that its only enemy states like Syria and Libya that have been attacked, while Saudi and Bahrain which have among the worst human rights records on the planet are ignored i just wish western governments were honest about their intentions instead of hiding behind faux humanitarian concerns.

Well for one Western involvement pretty much halted the expansion of ISIS and prevented the total collapse of the Syrian State, so there is that.

For Forks Sake

Great, now I'm going to have that song stuck in my head all afternoon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztZI2aLQ9Sw

Mutant z

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Mutant z wrote: »

Yes but what good has western involvement done when its led to the rise of ISIS and Al Queda the US and others only care about stategic interests nothing to do with human rights its not a coincidence that its only enemy states like Syria and Libya that have been attacked, while Saudi and Bahrain which have among the worst human rights records on the planet are ignored i just wish western governments were honest about their intentions instead of hiding behind faux humanitarian concerns.

Well for one Western involvement pretty much halted the expansion of ISIS and prevented the total collapse of the Syrian State, so there is that.

How so they planned regime change from the beginning to destabilise it and the rebel groups from what i can see are practically indistinguishable from Isis they all want to impose their own form of sharia law on the country its been a very ill thought out and ill planned intervention by the west which has caused the refugee crises which we are now expected to fix while those who actually caused it can sit around and do absolutely nothing.

Mutant z

There seems to be no solution being offered other than more bombing prolonging the war even further. The fact is the USA and UK seem hellbent on dragging it on for as long as it can it would have stabilised ages ago if they weren't so concerned about arming the jihadis group to overthrow the government which the majority of Syrians actually prefer as opposed to the stone age sharia loving head cases called the rebels.