Public Service promotion & increment question?

backspin.

Say you are at the top of your incremental scale and you get a promotion. The pay scales of the grades overlap a bit. Do you move up to the nearest point on the higher grade?

Riskymove

backspin. wrote: »

Say you are at the top of your incremental scale and you get a promotion. The pay scales of the grades overlap a bit. Do you move up to the nearest point on the higher grade?

Usually yes

But you may end up "marking time"
This means you stay on that higher point until you spend that time in the role

I.e. if you go on the third point you may not get any increment for 3 years

Squatter

backspin. wrote: »

Say you are at the top of your incremental scale and you get a promotion. The pay scales of the grades overlap a bit. Do you move up to the nearest point on the higher grade?

I can't guarantee it 100%, but that would be what normally happens to promoted candidates.

See here:- http://hr.per.gov.ie/promotion-in-the-civil-service/

which says:

Starting Pay on Promotion

The rules governing starting pay on promotion to a higher grade are set out in Circular 34/77 – Starting Pay on Promotion or Establishment. Civil Servants promoted through internal confined competitions are entitled to the more favourable of the following:

The minimum point of the new scale.

Pay equivalent to their existing pay, including their accrued increment on the current scale, if any, plus an immediate increment on the new scale.

Diceicle

You move to the next point of the scale as long as the next point of the scale is above €xx (not sure of the exact figure).
So if you're a Grade IV and you get a Grade V but the pay differential in incremenet terms is only 100 - you therefore move to the next point of the Grade V scale.

Sevenup79

If the next point of the scale was a 700 euro annual increase, would you move to this? Or would you move up another increment to give a 1,500 increase plus the 700 increase?

Gumbo

Sevenup79 wrote: »

If the next point of the scale was a 700 euro annual increase, would you move to this? Or would you move up another increment to give a 1,500 increase plus the 700 increase?

Should be one plus one then.
When I was promoted, the nearest point was €600 above my current salary so I went to the next one (2500) more.

backspin.

kceire wrote: »

Should be one plus one then.
When I was promoted, the nearest point was €600 above my current salary so I went to the next one (2500) more.

I remember hearing in the past it was the nearest but not lower + 1.

But I'm not sure in that.

JonT

From experience, the circular which applies in this instance is from 1977...

https://circulars.gov.ie/pdf/circular/finance/1977/34.pdf