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Post and rail

  • 23-04-2018 8:04pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭


    What do people think of pressure treated tantalized timber for post and rail fencing along a boundary. The land wouldn’t be the driest but I do not want concrete. Are there better types of post and rail.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    I got about 150m of it last year, 4ft 4 rail with chain link, plus 20m of 6ft horizontal hit and miss. Looks great. Posts driven in by digger.

    Not a fan of concrete.

    edit: actually I think most of mine is untreated. Very experienced fencing contractor reckoned it would be fine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,980 ✭✭✭Genghis Cant


    Becks610 wrote: »
    What do people think of pressure treated tantalized timber for post and rail fencing along a boundary. The land wouldn’t be the driest but I do not want concrete. Are there better types of post and rail.

    I wouldn't rate a lot of them.

    Take a look here

    http://www.frsfencing.ie/long-life-creosote-posts/#.Wt76P7ko80M

    I bought 6"x 3" posts for post and rail fencing for around €13 each. The rail, 4"x 2", is around €16 a length.
    When I cut the tops of the posts to the same height they were soaked right through to the centres with creosote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Becks610


    I wouldn't rate a lot of them.

    Take a look here

    http://www.frsfencing.ie/long-life-creosote-posts/#.Wt76P7ko80M

    I bought 6"x 3" posts for post and rail fencing for around €13 each. The rail, 4"x 2", is around €16 a length.
    When I cut the tops of the posts to the same height they were soaked right through to the centres with creosote.

    Thanks yeah I thought the stuff from frs may be better- waiting on a quote from them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 755 ✭✭✭Hocus Focus


    I wouldn't rate a lot of them.

    Take a look here

    http://www.frsfencing.ie/long-life-creosote-posts/#.Wt76P7ko80M

    I bought 6"x 3" posts for post and rail fencing for around €13 each. The rail, 4"x 2", is around €16 a length.
    When I cut the tops of the posts to the same height they were soaked right through to the centres with creosote.

    Good to hear that the treatment is right through, but it must be something other than creosote as it is considered to be carcinogenic and has been banned for at least ten years.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Good to hear that the treatment is right through, but it must be something other than creosote as it is considered to be carcinogenic and has been banned for at least ten years.

    It's not banned in wood preservation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    It's not banned in wood preservation.

    It is for domestic use.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Becks610


    Well I’m sure people it’s used for agricultural fencing and people just use that around their houses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭Defunkd


    Fences need treatment and the will eventually rot - no matter how well kept. Might get 10-15 years...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I did my house. Part of it I used concrete posts and then rest I done wooden posts. I then treated them with creosote afterward.

    To hold in place I used the quick-drying concrete:L http://www.kilsaran.ie/build/product/rapid-setting-concrete/

    I did see on the internet this new mixture which holds post, this stuff: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ynZPxEWaiU

    I would prefer to used the concrete. Really if land is wet you need to treat or they will be rotten in a few months


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Becks610


    I will be using cresote- the proper stuff can be got


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Becks610 wrote: »
    I will be using cresote- the proper stuff can be got

    I guess everyone dies of something, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Lumen wrote: »
    I guess everyone dies of something, right?

    Should be fine as long as they don't eat the fence


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,220 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    Should be fine as long as they don't eat the fence

    Depends how you read the research.

    http://ec.europa.eu/health/scientific_committees/environmental_risks/opinions/sctee/sct_out29_en.htm


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Lumen wrote: »

    Yeah I read it already. Inconclusive but verging on caution. So as I said, don't eat it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭Becks610


    Yes no eating it. It’s used in my parents house/farm and no one has died yet😂


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