Netgear wireless router r7800 129.99GBP

Lenny

This wireless router is the lowest its ever been, it'd gotten good reviews

https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-R7800-100UKS-Nighthawk-X4S-Compatible/dp/B01B4X503S/

Pique

Can I ask why people buy routers instead of using the supplied one from the ISP? I've a fritz box from Digiweb but what does the net gear bring that others don't?

TheDriver

Id say its more aimed at people wanting to replace their vodafone one which is useless

Lenny

I have the virgin one, and use a linksys e4200, the WiFi on the virgin hub 3 just can't get to some spots.....

fergiesfolly

Sorry to highjack the thread, but I've the same router from virginmedia( was originally UPC) for at least 7-8 years. Are these hard to swap over?

fergiesfolly

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Sorry to highjack the thread, but I've the same router from virginmedia( was originally UPC) for at least 7-8 years. Are these hard to swap over?

Depends on the ISP and whether or not they'll give you the user id and password for the service. I know Vodaphone won't last I checked not sure about vm.

Lenny

Deleted User wrote: »

Depends on the ISP and whether or not they'll give you the user id and password for the service. I know Vodaphone won't last I checked not sure about vm.

I'm not sure what you mean by this? Thr router i out up is to be used along side your virgin/uoc/Vodafone routers, you basically just use your isp router just to connect to the Internet and you use the wireless router to. Manage all the connections in the home,

stimpson

I've had an R7000 since 2014 and it's a fantastic router - when it works. For some reason, when you update the firmware the speeds drop to about half. The fix is to screenshot all the settings pages, reset the modem and enter the settings again. See the attached - I found the fix on the 21st of March.

Johnny_Fontane

Cheers OP, time to replace that jokeshop wifi capability on my 250mb Virgin Modem.

stimpson

Deleted User wrote: »

Depends on the ISP and whether or not they'll give you the user id and password for the service. I know Vodaphone won't last I checked not sure about vm.

You keep your ISP router and attach it to the router. Ideally you run run the ISP one in modem mode (Virgin supports this)

ED E

Lenny wrote: »

This wireless router is the lowest its ever been, it'd gotten good reviews... Hyper link won't create, must be because I'm on mobile...
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/B01B4X503S/ref=pd_gwm_simh_0?pf_rd_p=65b7e0dd-f899-4e87-9d0f-a0838e16bb6c&pf_rd_s=blackjack-personal-1&pf_rd_t=Gateway&pf_rd_i=mobile&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=5QWAMA7SSJ0SKAGDJ7BS&pd_rd_wg=xqQk1&pd_rd_r=5QWAMA7SSJ0SKAGDJ7BS&pf_rd_r=5QWAMA7SSJ0SKAGDJ7BS&pf_rd_p=65b7e0dd-f899-4e87-9d0f-a0838e16bb6c&pd_rd_w=I2Ehm&pd_rd_i=B01B4X503S

Lenny lenny lenny. Cmon bud.

-> https://www.amazon.co.uk/NETGEAR-R7800-100UKS-Nighthawk-X4S-Compatible/dp/B01B4X503S/

Pique wrote: »

Can I ask why people buy routers instead of using the supplied one from the ISP? I've a fritz box from Digiweb but what does the net gear bring that others don't?

Fritz is unusually good for ISP gear, most arent so lucky.

Lenny wrote: »

I have the virgin one, and use a linksys e4200, the WiFi on the virgin hub 3 just can't get to some spots.....

COMPAL (Hub3) is a total joke. Theres a class action over it in the US.

Johnny_Fontane

Right! Hooked it up tonight expecting the house to be showered in a haze of delicious wifiness all through my 1500 sq foot (100 year old) 3 bedroom house.

Well, its hugely disappointing. I hooked it up about 3 metres closer to the centre of the house and even though its got antennae coming out at every angle, Im only getting marginally better results (and I reckon thats only because its that bit closer than the virgin media hub).

by marginally better, I mean -80db as opposed to -67db.

Looks like I could get Wifi on the moon with the antenna sticking out but its pants!

Am I doing something wrong?

stimpson

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

Right! Hooked it up tonight expecting the house to be showered in a haze of delicious wifiness all through my 1500 sq foot (100 year old) 3 bedroom house.

Well, its hugely disappointing. I hooked it up about 3 metres closer to the centre of the house and even though its got antennae coming out at every angle, Im only getting marginally better results (and I reckon thats only because its that bit closer than the virgin media hub).

by marginally better, I mean -80db as opposed to -67db.

Looks like I could get Wifi on the moon with the antenna sticking out but its pants!

Am I doing something wrong?

-80 is worse than -67. -67 is pretty good TBH.

There could be many reasons whay it’s worse. You could be in a couple negated channel (try switching channels). Something like NetSpot will help identify if this is an issue.

If you have thick walls then 5GHz won’t pass through them as well (I use the 2.4GHz band in my home office because if this.). If you don’t have mimo on your device then you won’t be able to make the most of the multiple antennae. Also if the router is placed in an alcove or near steel then it will may not be able to “see” the devices properly.

Have you 802.11ac on the device you are using and are you connected to the 5GHz WiFi?

BArra

You likely need a mesh system. Check out ubiquiti amplifi hd

The high horse brigade

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

by marginally better, I mean -80db as opposed to -67db.

Decibels is minus figures, -67 is a higher signal than -80. -67 is a fairly decent signal, -80 is poor

1500 is a massive house. You'll need more than a single device to give good coverage. You'd be better to run a cable and add a decent access point the other end of the house

Johnny_Fontane

The high horse brigade wrote: »

Decibels is minus figures, -67 is a higher signal than -80. -67 is a fairly decent signal, -80 is poor

1500 is a massive house. You'll need more than a single device to give good coverage. You'd be better to run a cable and add a decent access point the other end of the house

yes, I understand that. I'm amazed that a 3 bedroom house cant be covered by a single box. And its not insignificant this box, its a bloody monster! You always see coverage mentioned like 300 feet yet it cant go through two walls?

Come on guys, this is unacceptable!

stimpson

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

yes, I understand that. I'm amazed that a 3 bedroom house cant be covered by a single box. And its not insignificant this box, its a bloody monster! You always see coverage mentioned like 300 feet yet it cant go through two walls?

Come on guys, this is unacceptable!

It’s physics. 5GHz will give faster speeds but can’t penetrate walls as well. Try connecting to the 2.4GHz signal and see how you get on. There are other variables like the devices you are trying to connect. Did you try using the 2.4 GHz?

Johnny_Fontane

stimpson wrote: »

It’s physics. 5GHz will give faster speeds but can’t penetrate walls as well. Try connecting to the 2.4GHz signal and see how you get on. There are other variables like the devices you are trying to connect. Did you try using the 2.4 GHz?

yes, my laptop automatically switches and from wifi analyzer on my phone, I can see that its a 2.4ghz connection. The back of my house to the extension is brick, so I think thats the issue.

Interestingly, I put the Virgin Hub into Modem mode to see if that made it any better and then it shut down my (ethernet) networked TV. I had presumed modem mode takes out wifi but still uses Ethernet?

I need to have a rethink about where this all stands!

stimpson

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

yes, my laptop automatically switches and from wifi analyzer on my phone, I can see that its a 2.4ghz connection. The back of my house to the extension is brick, so I think thats the issue.

Interestingly, I put the Virgin Hub into Modem mode to see if that made it any better and then it shut down my (ethernet) networked TV. I had presumed modem mode takes out wifi but still uses Ethernet?

I need to have a rethink about where this all stands!

Modem mode means the routing is done by the Netgear, and you probably want this TBH, but it means you need to connect any wired devices directly to the Netgear.

You can experiment with locations, but if your house is big and you have a lot of brick/steel, then you really need a mesh wifi. I'm looking at this myself at the moment.

Johnny_Fontane

stimpson wrote: »

Modem mode means the routing is done by the Netgear, and you probably want this TBH, but it means you need to connect any wired devices directly to the Netgear.

You can experiment with locations, but if your house is big and you have a lot of brick/steel, then you really need a mesh wifi. I'm looking at this myself at the moment.

The real point here though is that this router has basically no better wifi coverage than the Virgin Hub. Thats whats frustrating. If its better, its only by a tiny margin. I would have thought that the coverage on a supposed 'proper' router would have been significantly better.

jimmycrackcorm

Johnny_Fontane wrote:

The real point here though is that this router has basically no better wifi coverage than the Virgin Hub. Thats whats frustrating. If its better, its only by a tiny margin. I would have thought that the coverage on a supposed 'proper' router would have been significantly better.

It looks like your walls will defeat any router

digitaldr

I got a netgear orbi recently - very impressed with it. Comes with Disney circle too - very handy for monitoring and controlling the kids internet usage. Pretty good price on Amazon at the moment.

autumnalcore

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

stimpson wrote: »

Modem mode means the routing is done by the Netgear, and you probably want this TBH, but it means you need to connect any wired devices directly to the Netgear.

You can experiment with locations, but if your house is big and you have a lot of brick/steel, then you really need a mesh wifi. I'm looking at this myself at the moment.

The real point here though is that this router has basically no better wifi coverage than the Virgin Hub. Thats whats frustrating. If its better, its only by a tiny margin. I would have thought that the coverage on a supposed 'proper' router would have been significantly better.

What regulatory region is it set to EU is 100mw limit Canada is 1000mw. Old brick house probably has bitumen or no damp proof course and breathing lime mortar and render so wall would have high moisture content

Johnny_Fontane

Hi Lads, I've put the router up on adverts if anyone is interested.

I'll even throw in a 5m flat Cat 7 cable.

https://www.adverts.ie/15346221

bk

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

Hi Lads, I've put the router up on adverts if anyone is interested.

I'll even throw in a 5m flat Cat 7 cable.

https://www.adverts.ie/15346221

If you bought it from Amazon you can just return it. They are pretty decent in taking things back. You might need to pay postage.

BTW I ordered one of these from Amazon yesterday, looks to be a great device, I'll let people know how it measures up.

Johnny_Fontane

Johnny_Fontane wrote: »

Hi Lads, I've put the router up on adverts if anyone is interested.

I'll even throw in a 5m flat Cat 7 cable.

https://www.adverts.ie/15346221

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