Public Service Pay Restoration

evancunny95

Apologies if there is already a thread on this.

Looks like the unions are really ramping up the pressure big time on the government, which is quite surprising really. As someone who is just entering the service,jumping two scales would make a noticeable difference. Surely this would put to bed the restoration of shorter working hours for all.


https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/up-to-60-000-recent-public-service-hires-could-be-in-line-for-big-pay-increase-1.3470416

Sir Ophiuchus

It's not surprising at all. To recap what happened:

– The Government originally introduced a 'post-2011' pay scale that was about 10% lower for new entrants to be on.

– Eventually this was 'restored' by combining that scale with the pre-2011 scale by simply adding 2 points to the start of the scale and putting new people on them.

– This means everyone who started post 2011 is now technically on the same pay scale, but two increments behind. That's on top of the cuts that were applied to everyone in the civil and public service.

So if I started in 2010 and you started in 2012, I'll be four increments ahead of you, not two. And in this year (2018) I'll be earning with 8 years' experience what will take you ten years to get to.

(Also, just to clarify: you said 'jumping two scales' but I presume you mean two points on a scale.)

Why wouldn't people be looking to fix a blatant inequity?

Crunchymomma

I don't think it's surprising at all. The extra two points on the scale make a large difference. I'm a new entrant myself and if they succeed in allowing us to "jump" the two points my wages would go up about 4000 at my next increment date

evancunny95

Crunchymomma wrote: »

I don't think it's surprising at all. The extra two points on the scale make a large difference. I'm a new entrant myself and if they succeed in allowing us to "jump" the two points my wages would go up about 4000 at my next increment date

Oh dont get me wrong, I would be delighted if it went through. What is surprising to me is that this has happened so quickly, didnt see much progress or discussion on it apart from the teachers. But now the gov have agreed to meet unions it looks like it will happen and yes what a difference it would make!

Sir Ophiuchus

Thing is, they can't give it to teachers and not to the general public service. And teachers are an 'acceptable' way for the Government to back down on something like this. The media seems to hate civil service people but plays the 'teachers work so hard and do so much' card, so the Govt can get away with pay restoration for civil servants if they 'have to' do it in order to reward the pure, perfect teachers.