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A query in regard to working 9am to 5pm

  • 21-04-2018 3:22am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭


    I forward this question to after hours because there is a more diverse audience within this specific forum to understand the question I put forward.

    A query in regard to working 9am to 5pm or longer, constant basic work week and your nightly dream-state.

    The main question I want to ask you is this... When you come home from work and step inside your abode after this long work day and while going to sleep later, do you dream of the work you do while asleep in your dream-state ?. This is the question I ask you. You're tired after having your dinner and watching tv after a long days work, But when you sleep and dream, are your dreams always about your work,or part of your work, or are your dreams random/mysterious non work associated ?.

    So basically I'm just wondering if folk's after a long days work dream about their job while asleep every night, or do you disconnect from the job and have good dreams without the work factor ?.

    And I wonder, Everlong.


    Oort.

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,007 ✭✭✭s7ryf3925pivug


    No I never dream about work and I do longer hours than that, don’t always cleanly disconnect from it, but never dream about it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,351 ✭✭✭NegativeCreep


    We spend a lot of our time in work. It makes sense that some of our dreams would be set there or at least have people from work within some of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭The Oort Cloud


    We spend a lot of our time in work. It makes sense that some of our dreams would be set there or at least have people from work within some of them.

    Indeed. But how much does it actually take over the mind when the mind needs stress-free sleep from work. This is my question... How does daily work affect a persons brain while trying to get a stress-free nights sleep.
    Most people worry about getting the job done correctly, or if they forgot something that day, they sleep on it. So, basically people that come home from work sleep on it as they say to solve the work puzzle to better advantage. In this case they cannot get a proper sleep away from the work effort.

    I'd like to hear people's opinions on this, and how they deal with this and in regards to an effect on their sleeping.

    Oort

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Tumble outta bed and I stumble to the kitchen
    Pour myself a cup of ambition
    Yawn and stretch and try to come to life
    Jump in the shower and the blood starts pumpin'
    Out on the street the traffic starts jumpin'
    With folks like me on the job from 9 to 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,008 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Used to happen to me after a night shift as it’d be straight from work to bed.

    Never while working 9-5 (sing tune) though.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    And OP, nobody works 9 to 5 anymore.
    In my case it's 8 to 5.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,573 ✭✭✭pajor


    And OP, nobody works 9 to 5 anymore.
    In my case it's 8 to 5.

    8 to 4:30.. BOOM

    (though usually to 5)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    If I've had a terrible day at work sometimes I might dwell on things, which keeps me awake. I don't finish work until 9pm though, so unwind time is limited if I have to be up early next morning.

    But once asleep, my dreams/nightmares have never involved work (that I can remember - as I don't always remember what I dreamt about anyway).

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,596 ✭✭✭hairyslug


    I never had any good dreams about work, they were always stressful


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Every now and then dream about trying to complete a task that never quite comes together and doing it over and over and over again for what seems like hours.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    I presume this question isn’t aimed at public service workers.

    What with them wanting to work 35 hours a week now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    I presume this question isn’t aimed at public service workers.

    What with them wanting to work 35 hours a week now.

    Well 9 to 5, hour for lunch, 35 hours. I maths'd the sh*t out of that.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    Well 9 to 5, hour for lunch, 35 hours. I maths'd the sh*t out of that.

    Hour for lunch??????)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,177 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Hour for lunch??????)

    It's where you get 60 minutes to eat food.

    How about 4 fifteen minute breaks divided out. Smaller amount of time, for smaller amount of food possibly.

    You could have 6 ten minute breaks, pepperami breaks maybe.

    It works in a number of ways, but I won't take all your fun, try finding some for yourself.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,593 ✭✭✭Wheeliebin30


    It's where you get 60 minutes to eat food.

    How about 4 fifteen minute breaks divided out. Smaller amount of time, for smaller amount of food possibly.

    You could have 6 ten minute breaks, pepperami breaks maybe.

    It works in a number of ways, but I won't take all your fun, try finding some for yourself.

    I think the days of an hour to indulge yourself are gone, well maybe not in the public sector:)

    Anyway it’s actually a 30 hour week they are after.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/public-servants-to-pursue-30-hour-working-week-1.2653769?mode=amp


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭evolving_doors


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,112 ✭✭✭PMBC


    I presume this question isn’t aimed at public service workers.

    What with them wanting to work 35 hours a week now.

    Instead of remarking about the relatively short working hours of public sector workers, maybe everybody should be aspiring to/looking for/'working' towards 35 hours.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I presume this question isn’t aimed at public service workers.

    What with them wanting to work 35 hours a week now.

    Exactly. All 300,000 of them. Chilling out smoking pot when they should be working in A&E, nutcase classrooms, counselling an enormous range of abuse victims, helping patients suffering from mental health issues...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    My male boss punched a female colleague in a recent dream after she made a disparaging remark. He knew he had gone too far immediately.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I walk the desert plains with jim
    Morrison in my dreams. I once brought up the topic of work and he shut my ass down. Now we just dance like lizard Kings.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    *puts on psychoanalysis cap * :)

    Your query is not in relation to working 9am to 5 pm, rather the substance of the query is what do you dream. The fact that you couch the enquiry in terms of work, and use words like ''Longer'', ''Constant'', ''Long'', and ''Tired'' suggest that you are not finding work pleasant, may even be finding it stressful, and therefore you are dreaming about it.

    My working theory, having read a reasonable amount about dreaming, is that we use the ingredients (in symbolic form) of the day or several days before - things glimpsed, thoughts barely conceived yet emergent - to construct a theatre that lets us know what are our unresolved issues and emotions.

    Note, that while this is the case for most dreams, there are extraordinary dreams which do not fit into this theory. Precognitive, visionary, etc., but these are quite rare.

    If one looks at even the most bizare dream elements one can trace the symbol back to something we have recently seen or thought. This of course requires a fair degree of awareness of what we are thinking and seeing. That exotic animal glimpsed in passing on the front cover of a magazine on a newpaper stand. That nub of a scant almost invisible thought about an old friend. These may be employed by the mind to form the dream symbols, but they may look quite different - an extraordinary creature emerges from the woods, your old friend takes centre stage, whip in hand to defend you.
    Look and see over a month or so, if this is so for you. Trace back the dream elements.

    The substance behind the form or symbol taken in the dream (in this case work-related dream elements) is not as important as the unresolved issue of which it speaks. This is the why of the dream, not the how. The why is up to you to know. You know it already, though. What is the feeling you emerge from the dream with.
    Perhaps you don't enjoy your work? Perhaps you find it stressful?

    *takes off psychoanalysis cap to go do the boring BORING (BORING!) groceries* :(


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Malayalam wrote: »
    *puts on psychoanalysis cap * :)

    Your query is not in relation to working 9am to 5 pm, rather the substance of the query is what do you dream. The fact that you couch the enquiry in terms of work, and use words like ''Longer'', ''Constant'', ''Long'', and ''Tired'' suggest that you are not finding work pleasant, may even be finding it stressful, and therefore you are dreaming about it.

    My working theory, having read a reasonable amount about dreaming, is that we use the ingredients (in symbolic form) of the day or several days before - things glimpsed, thoughts barely conceived yet emergent - to construct a theatre that lets us know what are our unresolved issues and emotions.

    Note, that while this is the case for most dreams, there are extraordinary dreams which do not fit into this theory. Precognitive, visionary, etc., but these are quite rare.

    If one looks at even the most bizare dream elements one can trace the symbol back to something we have recently seen or thought. This of course requires a fair degree of awareness of what we are thinking and seeing. That exotic animal glimpsed in passing on the front cover of a magazine on a newpaper stand. That nub of a scant almost invisible thought about an old friend. These may be employed by the mind to form the dream symbols, but they may look quite different - an extraordinary creature emerges from the woods, your old friend takes centre stage, whip in hand to defend you.
    Look and see over a month or so, if this is so for you. Trace back the dream elements.

    The substance behind the form or symbol taken in the dream (in this case work-related dream elements) is not as important as the unresolved issue of which it speaks. This is the why of the dream, not the how. The why is up to you to know. You know it already, though. What is the feeling you emerge from the dream with.
    Perhaps you don't enjoy your work? Perhaps you find it stressful?

    *takes off psychoanalysis cap to go do the boring BORING (BORING!) groceries* :(

    April 20th was yesterday, let’s move on :-)


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 7,242 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Funny enough I never dream about work and I have a really tough time switching off from it. Its busy and tough going so when I come home the only thing that quells the headwreck is wine :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    April 20th was Hitlers Birthday. Just mentioning that cos I had a **** day yesterday. Never put petrol in a diesel car........


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    doolox wrote: »
    April 20th was Hitlers Birthday. Just mentioning that cos I had a **** day yesterday. Never put petrol in a diesel car........

    Hitler strikes again. Sorry about your car


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    April 20th was yesterday, let’s move on :-)

    Says the man referencing The Doors :-)


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Malayalam wrote: »
    Says the man referencing The Doors :-)

    I walked into that one, ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,585 ✭✭✭ligerdub


    PMBC wrote:
    Instead of remarking about the relatively short working hours of public sector workers, maybe everybody should be aspiring to/looking for/'working' towards 35 hours.


    Must agree. I don't work in the public sector, but I really dont understand this attitude that working what used to be a standard amount of work in all jobs should now be considered lazy or not enough. Scoffing at an hour for lunch calling it "indulging oneself" pretty much says it all.

    How about people stop trying to be the hero by pretending that pretty much their whole best energy Monday to Friday spent on work is an acceptable norm? People should start putting their foot down with employers and work their set hours and go home.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 16,620 ✭✭✭✭dr.fuzzenstein


    Exactly. All 300,000 of them. Chilling out smoking pot when they should be working in A&E, nutcase classrooms, counselling an enormous range of abuse victims, helping patients suffering from mental health issues...

    That is the image they're trying very hard to push. In reality about 80% of them seem to sit in offices looking at computer screens. They're like dark matter, we kind of know they exist, but they're far under the radar.
    A stuck space bar would be the biggest of their challenges.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭The Oort Cloud


    Excellent post. thanks for your input.
    Malayalam wrote: »
    *puts on psychoanalysis cap * :)

    Your query is not in relation to working 9am to 5 pm, rather the substance of the query is what do you dream. The fact that you couch the enquiry in terms of work, and use words like ''Longer'', ''Constant'', ''Long'', and ''Tired'' suggest that you are not finding work pleasant, may even be finding it stressful, and therefore you are dreaming about it.

    My working theory, having read a reasonable amount about dreaming, is that we use the ingredients (in symbolic form) of the day or several days before - things glimpsed, thoughts barely conceived yet emergent - to construct a theatre that lets us know what are our unresolved issues and emotions.

    Note, that while this is the case for most dreams, there are extraordinary dreams which do not fit into this theory. Precognitive, visionary, etc., but these are quite rare.

    If one looks at even the most bizare dream elements one can trace the symbol back to something we have recently seen or thought. This of course requires a fair degree of awareness of what we are thinking and seeing. That exotic animal glimpsed in passing on the front cover of a magazine on a newpaper stand. That nub of a scant almost invisible thought about an old friend. These may be employed by the mind to form the dream symbols, but they may look quite different - an extraordinary creature emerges from the woods, your old friend takes centre stage, whip in hand to defend you.
    Look and see over a month or so, if this is so for you. Trace back the dream elements.

    The substance behind the form or symbol taken in the dream (in this case work-related dream elements) is not as important as the unresolved issue of which it speaks. This is the why of the dream, not the how. The why is up to you to know. You know it already, though. What is the feeling you emerge from the dream with.
    Perhaps you don't enjoy your work? Perhaps you find it stressful?

    *takes off psychoanalysis cap to go do the boring BORING (BORING!) groceries* :(

    Individual people have different thoughts and understanding in regard to others opinions, but the problem is this... there are some people out there that will do everything in their power to cut you off when they do not like your opinion even when it is truth.

    https://youtu.be/v8EseBe4eIU



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,290 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    About once every 2-3 months, I dream that I'm in the building of a former employer (I left more than 12 years ago). In the dream, I'm lost - unable to find where I'm supposed to be and the people I'm supposed to be with - and unprepared for something that I have to do, like a presentation. The details are different each time - different buildings, different people - but the theme is the same - lost and unprepared.

    Is my brain telling me that I was right to get out?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,188 ✭✭✭Malayalam


    About once every 2-3 months, I dream that I'm in the building of a former employer (I left more than 12 years ago). In the dream, I'm lost - unable to find where I'm supposed to be and the people I'm supposed to be with - and unprepared for something that I have to do, like a presentation. The details are different each time - different buildings, different people - but the theme is the same - lost and unprepared.

    Is my brain telling me that I was right to get out?

    Kind of the same dream as the sometimes recurring one where I find myself at the desk in my Leaving Cert Maths or Irish exam wearing no trousers...and with zero clue about Irish or Maths.

    Even though I did well in the exams I presume the insane stress levels of that particular time left an indelible imprint on my brain - probably the amygdala region - which spurs a dream here and there using those archetypal symbols to let me know when my stress levels rise too high.


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