Category S UK, repaired

wex96

Morning guys. I am looking to buy a repaired category S UK import. Garage here repaired it. Any way of checking original damage? Motorcheck and HIP both say it was crashed but no more info.
Thanks

punisher5112

Get an inspection done but remember the price when selling on will take a hit.

Sure is cat s??

Car d would usually mean anything from a bumper to many body panels etc..

Similar cat c could be same or slightly more like bags were off and much bigger repairs.

It all depends on car value at the time as some will be deemed not viable to repair as costs are too high.

Insurance companies do sell these cars on for scrap or many find their way back onto the roads.

Atlantic Dawn

I'd avoid....

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/car-news/consumer-news/99750/new-write-off-categories-explained-what-are-cat-n-and-cat-s-cars

The ‘S’ in Cat S stands for ‘structurally damaged’, and means while the car can safely be repaired and put back on the road, the damage to it involved structural components. As with Cat C cars, Cat S cars must be re-registered with the DVLA before being put back on the road.

bazz26

The UK restructured their insurance write off categories recently just to confuse everyone.

newmember2

bazz26 wrote: »

The UK restructured their insurance write off categories recently just to confuse everyone.

Yes, no longer has anything to to with car value or economic viability of repair.

N - Non-structural
S - Structural

Not sure what the process is here for returning a British Cat S to the road. It's possible there's no oversight once the vehicle is imported here. Don't think I'd be into one myself.

Dravokivich

If the seller isn't giving you information (whether or not they have it) just walk away. You can pay for an engineer to do an assessment, but if I was doing this, I'd want them to be very diligent on the work done, when referencing information regarding why the damage happened.

Mintoe

wex96 wrote: »

Morning guys. I am looking to buy a repaired category S UK import. Garage here repaired it. Any way of checking original damage? Motorcheck and HIP both say it was crashed but no more info.
Thanks

Get in touch with motorcheck and ask if they can give you any more info.... but tbh cat s means structural damage but repairable so the buyer pool to purchase this car now and in the future is very small and you should expect an appalling trade-in price in the future if you buy it now so you’d have to be stealing it now to future proof yourself....

Curious what year, make, model, price, dealer/pvt selling it????

Behind you Joey

https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/sold-09-cayman-s-cat-s-minor-structural-damage/23190567

Thoughts?

colm_mcm

Looks like a scam ad to me. An old pic of a uk registered car.

Behind you Joey

colm_mcm wrote: »

Looks like a scam ad to me. An old pic of a uk registered car.

I hear you. The lack of registration plate and details of work has me spooked. Also, afaik and I'm open to correction, the front of the Cayman is mainly made from aluminium so a weld and repair job to the chassis could be problematic in the future.

Also, it's ridiculously cheap...

bazz26

If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck then.....

punisher5112

Nobody in Cavan would put that much time into taking photos like that.... It would be mostly hedges and ditches....

Also if it were legit the Cavan man would be looking for more then the asking price of the next one on the net.....

Definitely scam...

States sold in ad.

Wonder who fell for it.

punisher5112

In case it disappears....

Screenshot

Also no number and can only message through done deal is a real red flag if you fell for the rest...

Mintoe

newmember? wrote: »

Yes, no longer has anything to to with car value or economic viability of repair.

N - Non-structural
S - Structural

Not sure what the process is here for returning a British Cat S to the road. It's possible there's no oversight once the vehicle is imported here. Don't think I'd be into one myself.

“” no longer has anything to to with car value or economic viability of repair.”” this is untrue as economic viability of repair is still the main criteria the insurer will use when deciding to repair or not but the new categories now give more detail as to the nature of the damage, structural or non structural but both are repairable

newmember2

Mintoe wrote: »

“” no longer has anything to to with car value or economic viability of repair.”” this is untrue as economic viability of repair is still the main criteria the insurer will use when deciding to repair or not but the new categories now give more detail as to the nature of the damage, structural or non structural but both are repairable

What I wrote is not untrue. You seem to be confused between the ABI write-off categories and the decision by an insurance company whether to write-off a damaged vehicle or not. The two ABI categories S and N have nothing to do with cost of repair, indeed a Cat N vehicle may be more expensive to repair than a Cat S. This new system is a change from the old Cat C and D system where categorisation was directly related to the cost of repair versus OMSP of the vehicle.
An insurance company will write-off a vehicle if it makes financial sense in the context of the total cost of the claim being made to do so, but this as you've said will be a financial decision and has nothing to do with the possible categorisation of the written-off vehicle.

terrydel

With so many options out there, I just wonder why anyone would bother with buying one of these.