Nearly all tradesman jobs only available through agency’s

mark085

Ive noticed lately nearly all jobs are going through agencys now or you are made to be self employed and sub- contracted why is this, to take almost all responsibility from the employer? Or to chop and change staff as they please? What do you think? Any feedback appreciated

mickdw

Nobody wants the overhead of employed staff when they have the option of hiring people at a daily rate, giving them the ability to increase / decrease manpower overnight.

mark085

mickdw wrote: »

Nobody wants the overhead of employed staff when they have the option of hiring people at a daily rate, giving them the ability to increase / decrease manpower overnight.

Wasnt like this just a few years ago i think its a joke

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mickdw

Ya it's a joke for workers I agree. The subcontractors themselves don't want employees with holiday pay, sick pay etc so all want guys to go self emoloyed.
And the main contractors are sub contracting everything or taking in agency staff where needed.
The rates are good when direct with agency and can be paye.
Self employed into a subcontractor is a rough business with lots of drawbacks.

seanrambo87

It's as you say, easy to chop and change, get rid of the chaff. It's a way of working the bollix off ya and it's ****e IMO. However slog away for a few months and there's a chance you might get direct.

Madness when you think the agency's are being paid 5 to 15 over the odds of what you'd get direct but as was said earlier agency is liable for holidays at 8.5% I think.

mark085

mickdw wrote: »

Ya it's a joke for workers I agree. The subcontractors themselves don't want employees with holiday pay, sick pay etc so all want guys to go self emoloyed.
And the main contractors are sub contracting everything or taking in agency staff where needed.
The rates are good when direct with agency and can be paye.
Self employed into a subcontractor is a rough business with lots of drawbacks.

That's what I'm doing now self employed to subcontractor... Don't like it though need paye job

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Zebra3

It’s about yellow packing jobs.

mark085

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

make hay while the sun shines this won't go on forever

I hope your right and the union dues something about it maybe

mark085

Zebra3 wrote: »

It’s about yellow packing jobs.

What!

cantdecide

I think the tide is turning in construction. Successful builders are going to need dependable staff and once projects begin overlapping better and a bit more certainty creeps into the market, the agency costs are going to becomes less attractive and seen as the constraint rather than providing agility. As above, getting to the right gig and doing well at it will probably start bearing fruit more and more as the ratio to direct v indirect staff starts shifting.

Having said that, this won't be much consolation to those that aren't getting the right opportunities and lucky breaks.