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Ongoing 'coup' in Tramore. high priced double 2nd leg at 750pm Mon April 16th

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭seanhynes


    The jockey and the yard will be paid off I'd imagine to lose it


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    seanhynes wrote: »
    The jockey and the yard will be paid off I'd imagine to lose it
    Pity about em


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭seanhynes


    I hope he bolts it, itll be worth watching closely for any dodgy looking activity all the same


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,672 ✭✭✭flutered


    Pity about em
    who the bookies?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ANDREWMUFC


    Watch the jockey jump off it or something. Paddy power will give the trainer and jockey a few thousand to make it lose


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  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Auroras_encore


    ANDREWMUFC wrote: »
    Watch the jockey jump off it or something. Paddy power will give the trainer and jockey a few thousand to make it lose

    That's it you've got it bang on, the jockey will risk paralysis by jumping off, you should tell Robbie mcnamara or Freddy tylicki they got what they deserved for jumping off, you absolute tosser


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭kiers47


    Do people genuinely believe that bookies are paying off trainers or jockeys to throw races?
    Pretty comical if so.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,625 ✭✭✭✭Johner


    Farce of a race.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,479 ✭✭✭tinpib


    2nd in the end. Just found 1 too good really. Beaten fairly comfortably, maybe 1.5/2L


  • Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    kiers47 wrote: »
    Do people genuinely believe that bookies are paying off trainers or jockeys to throw races?
    Pretty comical if so.

    Coup my hole. The first was well punted and had every right to be fav!
    Be surprised if Powers took any more than €50 on the double


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭kiers47


    Kauto wrote: »
    Coup my hole. The first was well punted and had every right to be fav!
    Be surprised if Powers took any more than €50 on the double

    Oh ya completely. Would take sweet F.A. to move them tramore markets today.

    My point was referring to the people above saying bookies we're paying off jockeys to jump off horses or throw races. The only people I've ever heard talk this way are problem gamblers looking to blame someone other than themselves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    kiers47 wrote: »
    Oh ya completely. Would take sweet F.A. to move them tramore markets today.

    My point was referring to the people above saying bookies we're paying off jockeys to jump off horses or throw races. The only people I've ever heard talk this way are problem gamblers looking to blame someone other than themselves.

    Yeah agree for the most part but have known a few cases where lads have been paid off to stop one.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭seanhynes


    kiers47 wrote: »
    Oh ya completely. Would take sweet F.A. to move them tramore markets today.

    My point was referring to the people above saying bookies we're paying off jockeys to jump off horses or throw races. The only people I've ever heard talk this way are problem gamblers looking to blame someone other than themselves.[/QUOTE

    Well Iv heard of it in listowel happening a few years ago the jockeys been banned since, I don't gamble horse racing often I believe it exists , jumping off a horse on purpose not so much


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭kiers47


    seanhynes wrote: »

    Well Iv heard of it in listowel happening a few years ago the jockeys been banned since, I don't gamble horse racing often I believe it exists , jumping off a horse on purpose not so much

    Of course it happens to some extent in the very odd case. But it's not as rife as people believe. That's for sure. I would bet there is a similar or close to it amount of football matches fixed per 1 million as there are per 1 million races. Unfortunately where betting exists there will be people trying to beat or cheat the system. But for the most part racing is in a cleaner state than it's ever been in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 577 ✭✭✭theaceofspies


    kiers47 wrote: »
    Of course it happens to some extent in the very odd case. But it's not as rife as people believe. That's for sure. I would bet there is a similar or close to it amount of football matches fixed per 1 million as there are per 1 million races. Unfortunately where betting exists there will be people trying to beat or cheat the system. But for the most part racing is in a cleaner state than it's ever been in.

    As long as SP's are returned from racecourses and one looks at the amount of punters in the stand at Tramore today (could be counted on one hand!) the more one realises that €5 would constitute a market move. The horse in the bumper was beaten fair and square.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    Free advertising for the bookies.
    Call a journalist and say there is a coup taking place.

    Shortly we will hear about a mysterious punter who walks into the Croyden office of a bookmaker, and has £80,000 cash on an Epsom Derby 50/1 outsider.
    They probably don't have a Croyden office, would not take £80, and the highest price on offer is 25/1.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,513 ✭✭✭seanhynes


    well kiers I used to work at a pretty reputable bookmakers establishment in my time (the story you are about to hear is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent)
    I arrived in the offices of “Padriag Paramountcy” one morning to be greeted by a very sweaty and stressed manager. The reason for his perspiry was about to become clear ...... as he was just about to tell me.
    A well known coupe de mâitre specialist - let’s call him Bernard Spiralled had a very interesting 5 fold done to include 5 very obscure ponies each of which was at generous odds. The time was 3:06 at the time - I knew this as I looked at the clock, the last of Bernard’s 5 fold was to run in just 24 minutes.
    What on Earth was my boss to do, he stood to lose a substantial €4,628,992 if this horse was to win..... like a flash he took out his cellular telephone device which in circumstances like this is used as an instant telegram if you will, he phoned up the jockey and said “ fifty euro, a pint and custard cream what ever you do don’t win this race and what ever the hell you do MAKE IT LOOK BELIEVE-ABLE”
    What happened next can be seen below. Thanks for your time this evening


    https://youtu.be/by5GvPtwnN8


  • Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 568 ✭✭✭Auroras_encore


    seanhynes wrote: »
    well kiers I used to work at a pretty reputable bookmakers establishment in my time (the story you are about to hear is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent)
    I arrived in the offices of “Padriag Paramountcy” one morning to be greeted by a very sweaty and stressed manager. The reason for his perspiry was about to become clear ...... as he was just about to tell me.
    A well known coupe de mâitre specialist - let’s call him Bernard Spiralled had a very interesting 5 fold done to include 5 very obscure ponies each of which was at generous odds. The time was 3:06 at the time - I knew this as I looked at the clock, the last of Bernard’s 5 fold was to run in just 24 minutes.
    What on Earth was my boss to do, he stood to lose a substantial €4,628,992 if this horse was to win..... like a flash he took out his cellular telephone device which in circumstances like this is used as an instant telegram if you will, he phoned up the jockey and said “ fifty euro, a pint and custard cream what ever you do don’t win this race and what ever the hell you do MAKE IT LOOK BELIEVE-ABLE”
    What happened next can be seen below. Thanks for your time this evening


    https://youtu.be/by5GvPtwnN8

    Hahahahahaha


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭kiers47


    seanhynes wrote: »
    well kiers I used to work at a pretty reputable bookmakers establishment in my time (the story you are about to hear is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent)
    I arrived in the offices of “Padriag Paramountcy” one morning to be greeted by a very sweaty and stressed manager. The reason for his perspiry was about to become clear ...... as he was just about to tell me.
    A well known coupe de mâitre specialist - let’s call him Bernard Spiralled had a very interesting 5 fold done to include 5 very obscure ponies each of which was at generous odds. The time was 3:06 at the time - I knew this as I looked at the clock, the last of Bernard’s 5 fold was to run in just 24 minutes.
    What on Earth was my boss to do, he stood to lose a substantial €4,628,992 if this horse was to win..... like a flash he took out his cellular telephone device which in circumstances like this is used as an instant telegram if you will, he phoned up the jockey and said “ fifty euro, a pint and custard cream what ever you do don’t win this race and what ever the hell you do MAKE IT LOOK BELIEVE-ABLE”
    What happened next can be seen below. Thanks for your time this evening


    https://youtu.be/by5GvPtwnN8

    I was slightly believing that maybe you might be telling the truth until you posted that video. 50 quid and a pint for a grade 1 winner for Roger Loughran. That is one of the unfortunate incidents in Irish racing history. There is absolutely no chance that he threw that race on purpose. A grade 1 ffs.

    **Edit
    Also I had a feeling as it was the dial a bet and is always on early in the card. So had a check and the time of the race was 1.30pm so if you are going to spout bullsh*te on here at least do some research and make it "LOOK BELIEVE-ABLE" as you'd say yourself.
    You probably only know about that race as it's in the ****ing Ladbrokes ad.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ANDREWMUFC


    kiers47 wrote: »
    Do people genuinely believe that bookies are paying off trainers or jockeys to throw races?
    Pretty comical if so.

    Yes.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,772 ✭✭✭byronbay2


    seanhynes wrote: »
    well kiers I used to work at a pretty reputable bookmakers establishment in my time (the story you are about to hear is true. The names have been changed to protect the innocent)
    I arrived in the offices of “Padriag Paramountcy” one morning to be greeted by a very sweaty and stressed manager. The reason for his perspiry was about to become clear ...... as he was just about to tell me.
    A well known coupe de mâitre specialist - let’s call him Bernard Spiralled had a very interesting 5 fold done to include 5 very obscure ponies each of which was at generous odds. The time was 3:06 at the time - I knew this as I looked at the clock, the last of Bernard’s 5 fold was to run in just 24 minutes.
    What on Earth was my boss to do, he stood to lose a substantial €4,628,992 if this horse was to win..... like a flash he took out his cellular telephone device which in circumstances like this is used as an instant telegram if you will, he phoned up the jockey and said “ fifty euro, a pint and custard cream what ever you do don’t win this race and what ever the hell you do MAKE IT LOOK BELIEVE-ABLE”
    What happened next can be seen below. Thanks for your time this evening


    https://youtu.be/by5GvPtwnN8

    Congratulations! That is the most blatantly BS story I have ever read on Boards - quite an accolade!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,564 ✭✭✭kiers47


    byronbay2 wrote: »
    Congratulations! That is the most blatantly BS story I have ever read on Boards - quite an accolade!!

    There are some serious spoofers around here at times. The joys of anonymity!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    Was that not an obvious joke?:confused:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    Regarding these market moves it's comical how easily a horse can move in them morning markets.
    I made a pals horse move from 66/1 to 25/1 in one jump with a 20 euro e/w bet,apparently with one of the countries leading bookmakers, i kid you not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭lemush


    ANDREWMUFC wrote: »
    Yes.

    I pity you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,808 ✭✭✭Mysterypunter


    flutered wrote: »
    who the bookies?

    Yep, that lot. They had Govamix at 25-1 for the supreme at Cheltenham a few years ago, won first time out on new years day, fell nex t time out in the Royal Bond hurdle, was 25-1 to be resurrected and win at Cheltenham, didn't happen funnily enough, but was 25s in Ladcrookes early in March. Just for the buzz I rang up for a half ew. Panic Stations, was told its a wrong price, cut to 16s. Just told the chap that the horse is dead. Was still in the lists in March.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Shemale


    Kauto wrote: »
    Coup my hole. The first was well punted and had every right to be fav!
    Be surprised if Powers took any more than €50 on the double

    Bollox, they gave the trainer and jockey €5 and a packet of Rancheros to lose the race


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