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Upgrade Overkill , what can go?

  • 13-04-2018 2:04pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭


    Current Machine:
    CPU: Intel - Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor 
    Motherboard: ASRock - Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard 
    Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory 
    Storage: Samsung - 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive 
    Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive 
    Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card 
    Case: Fractal Design - Define C ATX Mid Tower Case  
    Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  
    Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Pro Full 32/64-bit  
    Monitor: LG - 24GM77 24.0" 1920x1080 60 hz
    Mouse: Razer - DeathAdder Wired Laser Mouse 
    Headphones: SteelSeries - Siberia 350 (Black/Orange) 7.1 Channel  Headset  



    1. What is your budget? £1000 (UK based)

    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? Gaming (Witcher 3, Overwatch), Multitasking (screen real estate a must) programming (R & Phyton), Scientific analysis, bioinformatics (Next generation Sequencing, etc) [/font]Linux Dual boot might be on the cards

    3. Do you need a copy of Windows? No

    4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? GPU, storage, case, PSU, Mouse, headset, Keyboard

    5. Do you need a monitor? Yes, I use a 5K 27 inch IPS in work (2017 MAC) and I just can't stand the sight of my 24 in TN panel at home. 

    6. Do you need any of the peripherals? I'd like a nice keyboard with low noise typing that would be ok for gaming.

    7. Are you willing to try overclocking? Yes unless a non K version processor offers a lot of saving.

    8. How can you pay? Cash, card, BT
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]9. [/font]When am I buying? [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This summer, Probably get monitor first and follow up in June for everything else. Happy to wait for hardware refreshes.[/font]

    The Case and PSU are new, the monitor is god awful. I need more storage space if I get into the type of analysis I'm thinking of doing, I need a lot of RAM, but it's so expensive that I think I would just get 16 GB and upgrade to 64 later, although slots might be an issue. 

    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Ideal new Build[/font]
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor  (£281.94 @ Aria PC) [/font]
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]CPU Cooler: CRYORIG - H7 49.0 CFM CPU Cooler  (£34.99 @ Overclockers.co.uk) [/font]
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Motherboard: ASRock - Z370 Extreme4 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£138.91 @ Amazon UK) [/font]
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (£190.06 @ Amazon UK) [/font]
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  (£192.50 @ Aria PC) [/font]
    Subtotal £838.4

    New Monitor
    [font=Open Sans, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Monitor: Asus - ROG Strix XG35VQ 35.0" 3440x1440 100Hz Monitor  (£784.98 @ Ebuyer) [/font]

    Total: £1623.38

    Questions
    1. The monitor is overkill. I do want real estate for multitasking but perhaps I do not need this, a 16:9 27 inch would do me just fine. IPS/VA only. Don't really know much about high refresh rates so part of me wants to get a second hand 27in 1440p/4k 60 hz with low latency. I'm worried about 2K being noticable **** compared to the gorgeous 5K display in work. Completely out of my depth on this.

    2. I was shocked by RAM prices, Some of the stuff I will be doing requires 32-64 GB ram. Could I get a single stick of 16G RAM, and get another stick later, or would the single channel RAM be a bad idea, I've no idea what ram speed actually does so I just picked the 3000 (units?) version?
    3. I have a 780 TI, I'm happy with this due to prices atm and I try and game at 2K, lol.
    4. Where can I compromise to get this down to £1000?
     
    Cheers guys!


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    Monitor and GPU are mismatched. 34" UW are beginning to see price drops and Korean brands popping up. Hold off a while IMHO.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Assuming your 3570K is overclocked with that budget I would just get a GTX1070Ti and a new 1440p monitor. Maybe a 2nd hand i7-3770K too for €120-140? Still an excellent CPU.

    2nd hand DDR3 tends to be priced well enough to easy pick up another 8GB DDR3 as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 99 ✭✭finlaycm


    The second hand market for components in the UK is higher priced than in Ireland (imo) so I don't really see the benefit of spending 120-150£ on a 5 year old i7. Again my issues around RAM are that I'm going to spend 50% of the costs on old technology, and would rather stick with what I've go till I upgrade. 
    I could hold off on the component upgrade, although when I really get going at the analysis I'll probably need more RAM.
    I've been putting off the monitor upgrade for 2 years now, partly because of life events, and partly I don't have a frame of reference for what new technology = "wow"  vs "I only claim I can see a difference because that difference cost me an extra 200 euro". There will always be something on the horizon and I want to get display sooner rather than later and get one thats decent enough to last 5 years.


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