Illegal Immigrants - How to obtain Birth certificate for our baby

ashp67172008

My wife and I came to Ireland 3 years ago. Our Irish Visas expired 2 years ago without being renewed. We just had a baby girl a couple of weeks ago and the labour was conducted with the assistance of a unlawful 'midwife' at our home. We now want to apply for a passport for the baby from our national embassy but it requires a birth certificate from here to evident her birth details. Therefore I wonder if there is a way in which we can still obtain a birth certificate for her from the local Registrar's Office based on our immigration circumstance?

Look forward to any advise and comments.

Much appreciated

BLUEYK

OP, pretty sure you will have to explain truthfully the situation to relevant Gov depts. I think we had a referendum here in the past 20 yrs where parents of children born in the state are not entitled to residency, only the child. Tough situation you are now in.

Edit: since 2005 your child may not be entitled to citizeniship either as is dependent on parents status. This is a complex area and you need to get on the gov depts asap I reckon. BOL

Esho

Contact the Migrants Rights Centre - the Irish visa system has messy edges and they deal with people whose documentation has expired regularly

Phone: 01 889 7570
Email: info@mrci.ie

SortingYouOut

Some of the replies here aren't one bit helpful to the OP and just hate being spewed without any background information. There are plenty of Irish abroad in a similar situation but I doubt you would take the same stance with them.

Miaireland

Probably best to go along to the local Office of Births, Deaths and Marriages. They should be able to advice

Fred Swanson

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Yamanoto

SortingYouOut wrote: »

Some of the replies here aren't one bit helpful to the OP and just hate being spewed without any background information. There are plenty of Irish abroad in a similar situation but I doubt you would take the same stance with them.

Park the hysteria will ya, there's no 'hate being spewed' anywhere on this thread.

Also, I've zero problem in saying illegal Irish immigrants should be removed from the US, Canada or wherever else they've decided to circumvent the proper process to gain residency by legitimate means.

Squatter

ashp67172008 wrote: »

My wife and I came to Ireland 3 years ago. Our Irish Visas expired 2 years ago without being renewed. We just had a baby girl a couple of weeks ago and the labour was conducted with the assistance of a unlawful 'midwife' at our home. We now want to apply for a passport for the baby from our national embassy but it requires a birth certificate from here to evident her birth details. Therefore I wonder if there is a way in which we can still obtain a birth certificate for her from the local Registrar's Office based on our immigration circumstance?

Look forward to any advise and comments.

Much appreciated

https://www.hse.ie/eng/services/list/1/bdm/registerabirth/

"The registration of the birth is carried out based on information provided by a qualified informant who is required to attend at the Office of the Registrar to sign the Register of Births. The mother and father of the child are the main qualified informants and, where possible, must attend personally for the registration of the birth. They must bring photo identification, for example a passport or driving licence, and their Personal Public Security Numbers (PPSN). "

Fred Swanson

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Corca Baiscinn

SortingYouOut wrote: »

Some of the replies here aren't one bit helpful to the OP and just hate being spewed without any background information. There are plenty of Irish abroad in a similar situation but I doubt you would take the same stance with them.

Even if it's not hate some of the replies are lacking in any empathy or compassion. Migrants Rights number and advice to come clean and contact a solicitor were probably helpful.

Yes, OP and his partner are here illegaly but since they're not on the radar of State Agencies they dont appear to be in receipt of Social Welfare/Housing Benefit or now Child Benefit. Since they have expired visas and are not iving in Stte provided accommodation neither are they Asylum-Seekers. So in fact while they have broken the law they dont appear to have cost us any public money and chances and must have been working to support themselves. If they came on student visas they have paid hefty tuition fees to some institution or other.

It bothers me that a woman has apparently gone through pregnancy and childbirth without recourse to any medical checks or assistance and that some posters dont seem to feel much compassion.

I don't know of course but there is a chance that the couple now realise that their time is up and want to take their baby back to their home country and are stuck because they can't get a passport. They must be planning a permanent exit as obviously having broken the terms of their visa they wont get back again once they leave.

OP, talk to the Migrant Rights Centre as a first step

Fred Swanson

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OldMrBrennan83

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Mrs OBumble

Corca Baiscinn wrote: »

It bothers me that a woman has apparently gone through pregnancy and childbirth without recourse to any medical checks or assistance

The OP says she had a midwife.. Pregnancy itself is not a sickness, so that's all some women need. However she was lucky that she did not have any medical issues - if she did then getting treatment would have been interesting.

Something similar happened to some people i knew a few years back. They were in France on tourist visas. But she got pregnant and then sick so she wasn't allowed to fly - so they had no way to travel home to Australia. They weren't sure how things would work out but found that the hospital asked few questions and gave her excellent care. And it was free. It not sure Ireland would have made it so easy.

kerry4sam

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Thanks,
kerry4sam