Housemate Scammed Dell...

Cupatae

Our house mate got a Laptop from dell finance, and moved back to Ireland..Now were getting pestered by debt Collectors ?? Im just wondering what i can do to get em to stop calling, should i just give them the information, will they stop cause his left Canada or will they pursue it back in Ireland then, i dont really want to cause trouble but i dont want to have to deal with debt collectors...

Del2005

Just keep returning the post with "Not at this address" written on it. If that doesn't work just start shredding them.

Canis Lupus

Those shouty letters must be hard to ignore.

Graces7

Read the title as " Home made deli.." :eek:

Mossy Monk

Inform Dell that they don't live there anymore and throw any future letters in the bin.

minikin

Give dell the information, leaving the problem to haunt their former housemates was a scummy thing to do.

Fighting Tao

It’s great to see that Boards now have a Canadian website.

Hande hoche!

Lure in a tv licence inspector. They should fight to the death to establish who is the apex predator.

spurious

I thought someone robbed the coleslaw.

TomSweeney

Fighting Tao wrote: »

It’s great to see that Boards now have a Canadian website.

boards.ie.ca

Cupatae

You know the internets worldwide right? its strange, almost like the account i made in ireland works in canada! :O its not just letters either they keep phoning (different ones each time) and they ve called in person

spurious

Give them his address in Ireland.

Fighting Tao

Cupatae wrote: »

You know the internets worldwide right? its strange, almost like the account i made in ireland works in canada! :O its not just letters either they keep phoning (different ones each time) and they ve called in person

But the laws are possibly different. I don’t know how many experts you’ll find here.

Either way the debt is his and not yours. Return the letters to sender.

D3V!L

I actually work in Dell as an investigative credit control manager. Our reach is far and wide.

Mickeroo

If it was me I would literally do nothing about it.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Mickeroo wrote: »

If it was me I would literally do nothing about it.

That’s incorrect.

Op in some countries credit ratings can affect anybody at an address which is on the record for missed payments. You could try contact dell.

kylith

Hande hoche! wrote: »

Lure in a tv licence inspector. They should fight to the death to establish who is the apex predator.

But then you're left with an apex bastard with a taste for blood.

Thought the thread was about a rogue housemate on the run after being caught pilfering a chicken fillet roll from the local convenience deli counter.

corner of hells

kylith wrote: »

But then you're left with an apex bastard with a taste for blood.

And a body to dispose of .

_Brian

Pass on relevant information. It’s a bit ****ty to drop ye in it to deal with the fallout.

Donald Trump

Cupatae wrote: »

Our house mate got a Laptop from dell finance, and moved back to Ireland..Now were getting pestered by debt Collectors ?? Im just wondering what i can do to get em to stop calling, should i just give them the information, will they stop cause his left Canada or will they pursue it back in Ireland then, i dont really want to cause trouble but i dont want to have to deal with debt collectors...

Play this down the phone to them full blast whenever they call looking for their money

I remember a story from Luxembourg of a guy I know (owner of some of stuff below). A housemate left a big mobile phone bill (on the apartment address) and went back to his home country.
One day at a later point the current housemates came back to find that the locks had been drilled in on the apartment door.
Expensive pretty much brand new laptop, flatscreen tv (plasma and this was 2003!) + other stuff gone.
Bailiffs/debt collectors had come and just taken the stuff, even though it was not the property of the offender.
The stuff had been sold off by the time the people there got all the details of what happened exactly.
No comeback for them and the guy whose bill it was didn't give them a cent.
Not sure what can happen in Canada but if the bill is sold off to an aggressive debt collector you never know.

weldoninhio

glasso wrote: »

I remember a story from Luxembourg of a guy I know (owner of some of stuff below). A housemate left a big mobile phone bill (on the apartment address) and went back to his home country.
One day at a later point the current housemates came back to find that the locks had been drilled in on the apartment door.
Expensive pretty much brand new laptop, flatscreen tv (plasma and this was 2003!) + other stuff gone.
Bailiffs/debt collectors had come and just taken the stuff, even though it was not the property of the offender.
The stuff had been sold off by the time the people there got all the details of what happened exactly.
No comeback for them and the guy whose bill it was didn't give them a cent.
Not sure what can happen in Canada but if the bill is sold off to an aggressive debt collector you never know.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that this never happened.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'm gonna go ahead and say that this never happened.

it did. 100% . why would I make this up. ffs.

quick google

"Huissiers de justice are officers of the court, appointed by a magistrate. Among their powers are deductions from a debtors pay and seizing and auctioning a debtors belongings. There’s only 20 of them in the whole of Luxembourg"

http://www.huissier.lu/members.php

Hande hoche!

glasso wrote: »

I remember a story from Luxembourg of a guy I know (owner of some of stuff below). A housemate left a big mobile phone bill (on the apartment address) and went back to his home country.
One day at a later point the current housemates came back to find that the locks had been drilled in on the apartment door.
Expensive pretty much brand new laptop, flatscreen tv (plasma and this was 2003!) + other stuff gone.
Bailiffs/debt collectors had come and just taken the stuff, even though it was not the property of the offender.
The stuff had been sold off by the time the people there got all the details of what happened exactly.
No comeback for them and the guy whose bill it was didn't give them a cent.
Not sure what can happen in Canada but if the bill is sold off to an aggressive debt collector you never know.

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'm gonna go ahead and say that this never happened.

I'm going with 100% genuine. Sounds like the actions of Luxemburglers.

gandalf

You better hope they don't hire Liam Neeson to sort out that debt!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZOywn1qArI

Purple Mountain

Donald Trump wrote: »

Play this down the phone to them full blast whenever they call looking for their money

Someone wasn't very good at English grammar!

r93kaey5p2izun

I thought this was going to be about walking out of Londis without paying for a chicken fillet roll. Disappointed. My local shop now sends your roll to the till through one of those pneumatic tube systems, like used to be used for money years ago, to stop these scam artists. Don't think it would work for a laptop though. Sorry OP.

TheAnalyst_

Your housemate has got a free laptop with zero repercussions. Ignore the letters.

Cuddlesworth

glasso wrote: »

it did. 100% . why would I make this up. ffs.

quick google

"Huissiers de justice are officers of the court, appointed by a magistrate. Among their powers are deductions from a debtors pay and seizing and auctioning a debtors belongings. There’s only 20 of them in the whole of Luxembourg"

http://www.huissier.lu/members.php

Because in most Western Country's(USA aside), it's pretty easy to recover goods back off of them and or the value of the goods if they were not, in fact, owned by the debtor and the recovery was a mistake.

weldoninhio

glasso wrote: »

it did. 100% . why would I make this up. ffs.

quick google

"Huissiers de justice are officers of the court, appointed by a magistrate. Among their powers are deductions from a debtors pay and seizing and auctioning a debtors belongings. There’s only 20 of them in the whole of Luxembourg"

http://www.huissier.lu/members.php

There is no way an officer of the court is going to remove goods that they don't know belong to the debtor. They'd be up in court in a flash. Selling a random person's belongings is theft.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

There is no way an officer of the court is going to remove goods that they don't know belong to the debtor. They'd be up in court in a flash. Selling a random person's belongings is theft.

well I'm telling you this happened. and the people didn't get anything back.
this was back in 2003.

markfinn

Hand over all forwarding info to those asking for it. Why would you bother protecting a scumbag thief who left you in the lurch?

greasepalm

send the owner of laptop ransomware=payment in full to release our laptop to you.

weldoninhio

glasso wrote: »

well I'm telling you this happened. and the people didn't get anything back.
this was back in 2003.

You keep telling me, i'll keep thinking its bullsh1t.

mrcheez

Fighting Tao wrote: »

It’s great to see that Boards now have a Canadian website.

so great they even named a band after it

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

You keep telling me, i'll keep thinking its bullsh1t.

an expert on every legal jurisdiction 15 years ago - that's bullsh1t :rolleyes:

odyssey06

Change house? Make sure to order a new laptop from Dell first and leave no forwarding address.

Cupatae

D3V!L wrote: »

I actually work in Dell as an investigative credit control manager. Our reach is far and wide.

What would you suggest? whats the usual outcome of these situations?

Gadgetman496

Cupatae wrote: »

What would you suggest? whats the usual outcome of these situations?

You don't actually believe that, do you?

greencap

weldoninhio wrote: »

There is no way an officer of the court is going to remove goods that they don't know belong to the debtor. They'd be up in court in a flash. Selling a random person's belongings is theft.

Maybe the concept was one of switching legal positions, between the debtor and creditor.

So as the ripped off creditor you're in the shtty position of chasing up some lying, procrastinating, get you next week, scumbag who has no intention of ever paying.

If you go outside the law however, and get your hands on the goods, then its the bad debtor that now has to get the police report, file the complaint, fill in the forms with the solicitor, have proof of xyz, correspond with the creditors legal representative, and so forth, only to have the creditor kick the can down the road in the same style as the scummy debtor was doing.
The right solicitor can drag things out for years with the help of a slow court system.

At that point most of the types who go round ripping off lenders would be likely to give up, as it involves significant effort, and they lack motivation since they know they're in the wrong.

Theres 'the law' and then theres 'the law '.

Gadgetman496

Right or wrong, the OP is going down for this, Prob get deported too!

weldoninhio

greencap wrote: »

Maybe the concept was one of switching legal positions, between the debtor and creditor.

So as the ripped off creditor you're in the shtty position of chasing up some lying, procrastinating, get you next week, scumbag who has no intention of ever paying.

If you go outside the law however, and get your hands on the goods, then its the bad debtor that now has to get the police report, file the complaint, fill in the forms with the solicitor, have proof of xyz, correspond with the creditors legal representative, and so forth, only to have the creditor kick the can down the road in the same style as the scummy debtor was doing.
The right solicitor can drag things out for years with the help of a slow court system.

At that point most of the types who go round ripping off lenders would be likely to give up, as it involves significant effort, and they lack motivation since they know they're in the wrong.

Theres 'the law' and then theres 'the law '.

I don't see your point? The fairytale that I don't believe wasn't that they broke into the house and took goods belonging to the person that owed them. It was that they broke into a house and took random goods, belonging to other innocent people, who hadn't ripped off anyone. They then "sold" these items at auction before verifying ownership so the innocent people were left out of pocket. Its such a nonsensical story so I can see how you could have misinterpreted it.

spurious

That 'Can't pay, won't pay' show from British TV has them taking stuff that doesn't belong to the debtor all the time. If the innocent parties can't produce receipts for stuff and it is at the address they take it in lieu of the debt.

You don't have to go as far as Luxembourg.