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Gran lime and fertiliser

  • 11-04-2018 3:49pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭


    i have rented ground that needs lime so was going to put out a few bags of gran lime, how long do I need to wait before I can sow fertiliser? This will just be for grazing so was going to go with 18.6.12 after the lime.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    you are ok with can based N. And lime. Same day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    i have rented ground that needs lime so was going to put out a few bags of gran lime, how long do I need to wait before I can sow fertiliser? This will just be for grazing so was going to go with 18.6.12 after the lime.

    It is OK to sow one after the other, no matter what fertiliser you sow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Don't think gran like and urea work out. Open to correction here


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭Westernrock


    I fired out the 18.6.12 followed by the gran lime yesterday so will see in a few weeks!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    Bulk Lime and Gran Lime are basically the same. The following explains the timing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    Don't think gran like and urea work out. Open to correction here

    I recall having checked this last year.
    I have made a further check a few minutes ago by Googling: Goulding Gran-Lime and they state that Gran-Lime "can be used in conjunction with Urea-based fertiliser when spread separately".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    spread a week apart. urea 1st


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    spread a week apart. urea 1st

    That contradicts what is on Gouldings web site.
    Both cannot be right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    Why use GRAN-LIME?

    Can be spread with a conventional fertiliser spreader

    Farmer applied – no need for contractors.

    Minimises the risk of compaction

    Can be used in conjunction with Urea-based fertilisers when spread seperately.
    From website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    Why use GRAN-LIME?

    Can be spread with a conventional fertiliser spreader

    Farmer applied – no need for contractors.

    Minimises the risk of compaction

    Can be used in conjunction with Urea-based fertilisers when spread seperately.
    From website.

    No where does it say that you have to wait a week between spreading the fertiliser and the lime.

    Spread separately means to spread one of them at a time; in other words do not mix them together when spreading.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭Donegalforever


    tellmeabit wrote: »
    Why use GRAN-LIME?

    Can be spread with a conventional fertiliser spreader

    Farmer applied – no need for contractors.

    Minimises the risk of compaction

    Can be used in conjunction with Urea-based fertilisers when spread seperately.
    From website.

    No where does it say that a week must pass between spreading fertiliser and Gram-Lime.

    By spreading separately, they mean that the two products should not be mixed together when spreading, but each should be spread on its own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,006 ✭✭✭tellmeabit


    could be correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭croot


    I think granlime is ok but don’t use Gromax at the same time though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Would always avoid spreading lime and Urea or slurry esp. urea together

    From the Irish fertiliser website
    Q.12 Can I spread urea in the same year as I spread lime ? 

    A. The response to urea can be very poor if it’s applied within eight weeks of an application of lime. A reaction occurs between the urea and the freshly applied lime particle’s which results in much of the urea being lost to the atmosphere as a gas (volatilisation).

    As a general rule don’t use urea if lime has been applied that Spring. If lime was applied in the previous back end it should be safe to use urea in the following Spring provided there was sufficient rainfall to wash the lime into the soil. Lime can be applied a week after an application of urea with no increased risk of losses as the urea will have been fixed in the soil and no reaction occurs between the urea and lime particles.

    https://www.fertilizer-assoc.ie/faqs/

    Lime will also increase loss of N after a slurry application. If appkying slurry best leave a week before spreading lime. If the lime has been put out first then probably best to not spread slurry for approx 3 months afaik

     However afaikn CAN or 18-6-12 can be spread with lime...


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