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Syria

  • 11-04-2018 12:10pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭


    I am wondering,

    If things go Really badly between USA and Russia over this Syria problem,

    Could Ireland be a target due to the amount of American business currently in the country?

    What would the EU be able to do to prevent this scenario?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    No.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Are you asking will russia target Ireland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    Gatling wrote: »
    Are you asking will russia target Ireland

    Basically yes,

    Not necessarily to Missile Strikes, but there would be other ways, surely.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    The only way we would be considered a target would be because of the US military's use of Shannon airport.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Trump is only rattling his cage now because the noose of the Mueller investigation is tightening around his neck.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    In any nuclear war Ireland would be a target. Of both Russia and Israel, if it feels under threat.

    Other than that, no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    In any nuclear war Ireland would be a target. Of both Russia and Israel, if it feels under threat.

    Other than that, no.

    Why do you think Ireland would be a target?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Basically yes,

    Not necessarily to Missile Strikes, but there would be other ways, surely.

    I don't think they can actually hurt us ,
    If they decide to use cyber attacks on infrastructure or Banking systems they could cause short term issues but nothing major

    They anything else they would be risking a hell of a lot to gain very little


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    They'll have to fly in over Bundoran, Listowel or Castlebar. They'll think the Yanks beat them to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    No, nothing is going to happen.


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    A military facility in Swords was a target during the Cold War. No doubt it’s back on the radar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    If we ever were to get into trouble it would be GB helping us not the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    faceman wrote: »
    A military facility in Swords was a target during the Cold War. No doubt it’s back on the radar.

    We've a few companies which provides dual useage goods to foreign militaries ,it's worth a few billion a year to the economy


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    wexie wrote: »
    Why do you think Ireland would be a target?

    Western, innit.

    During the Cold War there were dozens of targets in Ireland. Mostly ports and airports. Including places like Foynes and Knock.

    Assumption was that the U.K. or US would grab them if their facilities in the U.K. were threatened or destroyed.

    I’ll try find that declassified document.

    They have fewer nukes now though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    faceman wrote: »
    A military facility in Swords was a target during the Cold War. No doubt it’s back on the radar.

    I think more useful targets these days would be the likes of the giant MS datacentre in Clondalkin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,194 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    I am wondering,

    If things go Really badly between USA and Rossia over this Syria problem,

    Could Ireland be a target due to the amount of American business currently in the country?

    What would the EU be able to do to prevent this scenario?
    No. If the US economy and the dollar goes down the toilet so do we. That's why RTE is virulently anti Russia. Its all about the dollar and nothing to do with phony concern for Syrian children. Ultimately China is the biggest threat to the USA, the Russians are small fry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    Ultimately China is the biggest threat to
    , the Russians are small fry.

    An actual fact ..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,866 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    I'm wondering now with Trump tweeting to the Russians that missiles will be coming to Syria what the new tactic will be.
    Russia shoots down the missiles, some get through and potentially puts Russian troops in the cross fires.
    Wtf is the point of the UN that the Americans can say "fcuk it, we will do what we want anyway".
    Russia points the finger to Israel so maybe an investigation to check what actually happened would be a better course of action rather than firing off more missiles and killing more people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    The only way we would be considered a target would be because of the US military's use of Shannon airport.

    That hoary old chesnut....<yawn>.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    That hoary old chesnut....<yawn>.

    US use of Shannon Airport makes Ireland a target - Anjem Choudary
    Ireland is a legitimate target for attack because of its decision to allow American planes refuel at Shannon Airport on their way to bombing Muslim countries, a radical Muslim preacher based in the UK has warned today.

    Anjem Choudary, who has described those behind the 9/11 attacks in the US as ‘magnificent martyrs’, warned that Muslims fighting American foreign policy do not see Ireland as a neutral country because of its willingness to allow American planes refuel at Shannon.

    “You allow the Americans, who are the biggest butchers in the world, to stop at Shannon Airport to refuel and go on to kill people in Muslim countries... if you believe the Americans are terrorists, the Irish government is colluding with them and aiding and abetting terrorism,” he said.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn



    That’s the islamists, not russia.

    In a full hot nuclear war Shannon is probably a target regardless. No neutrality will matter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    In a full hot nuclear war Shannon is probably a target regardless. No neutrality will matter.

    If there is a nuclear war it would make no difference if Ireland was hit with a missile or not. We'd be ****ed eventually by the North Atlantic drift.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭donegaLroad


    That’s the islamists, not russia.

    In a full hot nuclear war Shannon is probably a target regardless. No neutrality will matter.

    I thought the OP was asking would Ireland be a target in general.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    Mossy Monk wrote: »
    If there is a nuclear war it would make no difference if Ireland was hit with a missile or not. We'd be ****ed eventually by the North Atlantic drift.

    Not the question that was asked.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Not the question that was asked.

    Did my post put your panties in a bunch? Well consider me sorry.

    I wasn't answering anyone's question. I was responding to your answer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Ireland will be used to calibrate both sides weapons systems before the main event


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,460 ✭✭✭Barry Badrinath


    Ireland will be used to calibrate both sides weapons systems before the main event

    Agreed.

    Listen up people... we.are.fcuked!

    Get out there and bang whoever you ever wanted to bang! This is it, the end of the fcuking World!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Basically yes,

    Not necessarily to Missile Strikes, but there would be other ways, surely.

    They'll probably just sh*tpost on our forums and comment sections. Outside of nukes and poisonings, there's not mush else they can do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,594 ✭✭✭cfuserkildare


    I was thinking more Infrastructure and finance,
    Digital infrastructure has been shown to be woefully inadequate when dealing with Hacking threats,
    As was posted above, Microsoft being hit, or Google, or any of the Computer industry giants would bring Ireland into question as a base of operations, ( I left out Apple for obvious reasons )
    Ireland would be in deep trouble if those American companies all upped sticks and left.

    Wouldn't take much for these type of scenarios to unfold.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace



    Being a liberal progressive country also makes us a target to such Islamic loons.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    Reality is a nuclear war will change the climate for the world. Imagine the fires alone and dust from blowing up just one city, it's game over for Ireland too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chrongen


    If we ever were to get into trouble it would be GB helping us not the EU.

    GB helping Ireland? Why would they even bother if they've got their own wars to fight?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,304 ✭✭✭Chrongen


    wexie wrote: »
    I think more useful targets these days would be the likes of the giant MS datacentre in Clondalkin.

    Datacentres are all backed up to off continent locations anyway. Zapping the grid would shut down the systems without the need of blowing them to pieces.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 Money Team


    If only there was someway the people of the world could stop these superpowers raping the middle East and other parts of the world where they want to control. I would do anything , but feel so powerless. The rhetoric in the media normalises all this and creates a debate that shouldn't exist. The world as a whole should have the ability to stop this madness. Americans take back your country ! Stop being brainwashed. You're killing innocent people on a different side of the world. You should be ashamed of what's been done by your military/government


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 28,128 ✭✭✭✭Mossy Monk


    Money Team wrote: »
    If only there was someway the people of the world could stop these superpowers raping the middle East and other parts of the world where they want to control. I would do anything , but feel so powerless. The rhetoric in the media normalises all this and creates a debate that shouldn't exist. The world as a whole should have the ability to stop this madness. Americans take back your country ! Stop being brainwashed. You're killing innocent people on a different side of the world. You should be ashamed of what's been done by your military/government

    USA USA USA USA


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 16,663 CMod ✭✭✭✭faceman


    Reality is a nuclear war will change the climate for the world. Imagine the fires alone and dust from blowing up just one city, it's game over for Ireland too.

    With the weather in Ireland we totally welcome an increase in temperatures by any means necessary.

    I’m off to Pennies to buy some shorts!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭indy_man




    I believe Assad is telling the truth and USA, France and UK and wrong and have been fooled.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 93,581 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Trump as expected is tough on soft targets.

    Owner of Aughinish Alumina on US sanctions list
    Analysts believes an example is being made of Mr Deripaska, who is not part of Mr Putin's inner circle, because his business is unpopular with US President Donald Trump's administration.

    Aughinish have a big massive facility down in Limerick


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