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Moving pension from another EU country?

  • 10-04-2018 2:41pm
    #1
    icicle2000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 ✭


    My 75 y.o. grandmother wants to move her with me from Lithuania due to old age and poor health etc. How do we change over her Lithuanian pension to an Irish one? Does she need to have been ordinarily resident here for a particular length of time first? I've been permanently resident here since 2000 if that's relevant, but my grandmother has not.


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  • #2
    hawthorne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭hawthorne


    icicle2000 wrote: »
    My 75 y.o. grandmother wants to move her with me from Lithuania due to old age and poor health etc. How do we change over her Lithuanian pension to an Irish one? Does she need to have been ordinarily resident here for a particular length of time first? I've been permanently resident here since 2000 if that's relevant, but my grandmother has not.

    It is not possible to change your grandmother's Lithuanian pension into an Irish pension. It may might be possible to get the Lithuanian pension paid onto an Irish bank account. The Lithuanian pension authority could tell her what the story is.
    To qualify for an Irish non-contributory pension your grandmother has to have first lived in Ireland for a number of years to satisfy the HRC. Same when it comes to a medical card. A private health cover would be out of the question due to the horrific costs- it would eat up her entire Lithuanian pension.
    She might try to get health cover with an EHIC card from Lithuania.This could solve the problem.
    Your residency here does not help your grandmother to qualify for any of those services.
    I' d say that your grandmother is better off where she is at the moment.


  • #3
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I get my UK pension here. Is there no reciproca l system.? Thought it was standard EU stuff?

    I also got medical card, welfare help, as soon as I came to Ireland from the UK,. No wait


  • #4
    hawthorne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭hawthorne


    Graces7 wrote: »
    I get my UK pension here. Is there no reciproca l system.? Thought it was standard EU stuff?

    I also got medical card, welfare help, as soon as I came to Ireland from the UK,. No wait

    Ireland and the UK always had a special relationship. You can swap countries and services as you like if you are an Irish or a UK citizen.
    When it comes to other EU citizens , there are different rules. All other EU citizens have to fulfill the HRC first.
    Some countries allow their citizens to live abroad and transfer the pension onto a foreign bank account. Some don't.
    It also depends on the sort of pension you are on. A non-contributory pension cannot be transfered to another country. A contributory pension can be transfered.
    In this case the transfer of the pension depends on the Lithuanian regulations.
    The medical card is also subject to the HRC. Only exception is a Lithuanian EHIC card. It gives you the medical services you need.For a limited time.
    A private insurance would be sky high. The lady in question was never health insured in Ireland and has to pay the full loading charge due to her age.
    Looking at this:

    http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=1119&intPageId=4666&langId=en

    http://www.pension-watch.net/country-fact-file/lithuania/

    tells me that the Lithuanian pension is not the highest in the world and would be completely wiped out by the contribution plus loading charge for an Irish private health insurance.


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