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Dribble bar - best option?

  • 09-04-2018 9:41pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭


    With TAMs and given farm is fragmented we are looking at going down the dribble bar route.. retrofitting onto our current 2k gal tanker.. we were looking at agquip and mastek, any thoughts on either of these?
    Any other options either?

    Lots of lads complaining about blockages but i hear Mastek chopperbox is good with baled silage..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    larthehar wrote: »
    With TAMs and given farm is fragmented we are looking at going down the dribble bar route.. retrofitting onto our current 2k gal tanker.. we were looking at agquip and mastek, any thoughts on either of these?
    Any other options either?

    Lots of lads complaining about blockages but i hear Mastek chopperbox is good with baled silage..

    Vogelsang macerator has a good rep. Contractor near me has a mastek umbilical system and the macerator (not a vogelsang) gets blocked due usually to open tanks with a sod of turf growing on top before agitating, baled silage, and rubbish like bale plastic, netting and fence tape and its a big job to free it. Not a job you'd tackle in the middle of a field. Has had several modifications in last 2 yrs.
    The slurry going through a macerator would want to be fairly consistent. Pig slurry is the ideal stuff.
    I've seen an Abbey tank with an intake macerator fitted as well as outlet. Supposed to make a big difference.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    Vogelsang macerator has a good rep. Contractor near me has a mastek umbilical system and the macerator (not a vogelsang) gets blocked due usually to open tanks with a sod of turf growing on top before agitating, baled silage, and rubbish like bale plastic, netting and fence tape and its a big job to free it. Not a job you'd tackle in the middle of a field. Has had several modifications in last 2 yrs.
    The slurry going through a macerator would want to be fairly consistent. Pig slurry is the ideal stuff.
    I've seen an Abbey tank with an intake macerator fitted as well as outlet. Supposed to make a big difference.

    The Agquip comes with the Vogelsang macerator.. hard to know.. i think that plastic and the likes will block everything including a splashplate.. touch wood only once ever did we get a blockage with a splashplate.. bit of a broken pallet.. only doing our own and some pig slurry so trying to get the most cost effective solution!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,753 Mod ✭✭✭✭blue5000


    Can you hang on till grass and muck next month? Have a look there at how they compare.

    If the seat's wet, sit on yer hat, a cool head is better than a wet ar5e.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    A contractor here in Cavan has built a retro-fit one, which he hopes to get into production.
    He is bringing it to Grass and Muck .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Can you hang on till grass and muck next month? Have a look there at how they compare.

    Planning on going to it anyway.. tyre kick no harm to know what to focus on prior to that with lads experiences!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,039 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    blue5000 wrote: »
    Can you hang on till grass and muck next month? Have a look there at how they compare.
    But will there be Grass? :p


    Sorry op off topic but couldn't resist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    But will there be Grass? :p


    Sorry op off topic but couldn't resist.

    There will be plenty of muck anyways!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20 Oisin1001


    Vogelsang macerator has a good rep. Contractor near me has a mastek umbilical system and the macerator (not a vogelsang) gets blocked due usually to open tanks with a sod of turf growing on top before agitating, baled silage, and rubbish like bale plastic, netting and fence tape and its a big job to free it. Not a job you'd tackle in the middle of a field. Has had several modifications in last 2 yrs.
    The slurry going through a macerator would want to be fairly consistent. Pig slurry is the ideal stuff.
    I've seen an Abbey tank with an intake macerator fitted as well as outlet. Supposed to make a big difference.


    Bit late to the thread here, but they've made their own in-house macerator since then, and it's a big improvement. Looks like a great job



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,703 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Oisin1001 wrote: »
    Looks like a great job


    Looks to me like it was designed to chop off hands!

    No way should it be able to run with that easily removed cover off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,039 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    blackbox wrote: »
    Looks to me like it was designed to chop off hands!

    No way should it be able to run with that easily removed cover off.

    Ah he was just demonstrating an Irish machine for irish conditions.
    By Irish conditions that is silage, plastic and pallets through it.:pac:

    Nobody would work it without the cover on unless they Want to be covered in shyte.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,703 ✭✭✭blackbox


    Ah he was just demonstrating an Irish machine for irish conditions.
    By Irish conditions that is silage, plastic and pallets through it.:pac:

    Nobody would work it without the cover on unless they Want to be covered in shyte.

    I know that, but what if it starts while you are cleaning it out?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,039 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    blackbox wrote: »
    I know that, but what if it starts while you are cleaning it out?

    Well the smart thing would be to switch the tractor off before having a go at it.
    To be sure, to be sure.

    Generally though most people are pretty safety consious.
    I get what you're saying though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,123 ✭✭✭✭patsy_mccabe


    You could have the tractor switched off and hydraulic pressure still trapped in the system.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    blackbox wrote: »
    I know that, but what if it starts while you are cleaning it out?

    The whole idea of it is that you don't have to clean it out.......that it chops everything that comes into it small enough to go out through the dribble bar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭visatorro


    blackbox wrote: »
    I know that, but what if it starts while you are cleaning it out?

    The whole idea of it is that you don't have to clean it out.......that it chops everything that comes into it small enough to go out through the dribble bar.
    Ideas are for engineers at a desk
    **** happens in the field!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,765 ✭✭✭White Clover


    visatorro wrote: »
    Ideas are for engineers at a desk
    **** happens in the field!

    That's true to a point, but as far as I know this is an upgrade to solve a recurring problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,550 ✭✭✭visatorro


    visatorro wrote: »
    Ideas are for engineers at a desk
    **** happens in the field!

    That's true to a point, but as far as I know this is an upgrade to solve a recurring problem.

    In all fairness I seem the video and talked to the contractor about it. Looks like a good set up. Still better off with no bales and plenty of water


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,036 ✭✭✭greenfield21


    What's the weight of your average dribble bar?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,048 ✭✭✭Injuryprone


    500-700kg I think


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 607 ✭✭✭larthehar


    I was all set to buy but the more i look at them the more i wonder where the 13k is in them?? Looked at them all in grass and muck and lots of food for thought.. i think i will just buy a macerator and make my own.. way cheaper..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭foxy farmer


    A very basic dribble bar. Almost fit for the Gunthering thread.
    https://youtu.be/ANG3XJr6Lts
    Wonder how it manages without a macerator?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,264 ✭✭✭✭Nekarsulm


    A very basic dribble bar. Almost fit for the Gunthering thread.
    https://youtu.be/ANG3XJr6Lts
    Wonder how it manages without a macerator?

    Lots of pig slurry ........


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    Where are regulations going in regards to slurry tankers in general? I've been putting off buying my own tanker for the past couple of years due to not knowing if things like the dribble bar will become compulsory.
    If they do become compulsory is it likely it will be for new tankers only?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,172 ✭✭✭SuperTortoise


    larthehar wrote: »
    I was all set to buy but the more i look at them the more i wonder where the 13k is in them?? Looked at them all in grass and muck and lots of food for thought.. i think i will just buy a macerator and make my own.. way cheaper..


    At that sort of money it's a contractors only job, i also don't see 13k in it.


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