zoning heating

kingbhome

I have a 2400sq ft house, 3 beds, bathroom,ensuite upstairs and same downstairs with living room, dining kitchen. back boiler stove along with an oil burner for my heating. Gravity feed opened system. Is it possible i could zone downstairs and upstairs for my different heating needs. Wife and kids will spend most of the day downstairs and instead of running about turning rads of and on every day is it possible i could install something that will just make the heating heat downstairs then when needed, turn it on for upstairs.

Someone mentioned it can be done but ill need stats up and downstairs. If so, how do these work and whats involved in the install. What do the stats do

BryanF

Zone the heating? Upstairs/downstairs - Speak to a plumber. There may be an seai grant depending on what you’re willing to spend.

cranefly

kingbhome wrote: »

I have a 2400sq ft house, 3 beds, bathroom,ensuite upstairs and same downstairs with living room, dining kitchen. back boiler stove along with an oil burner for my heating. Gravity feed opened system. Is it possible i could zone downstairs and upstairs for my different heating needs. Wife and kids will spend most of the day downstairs and instead of running about turning rads of and on every day is it possible i could install something that will just make the heating heat downstairs then when needed, turn it on for upstairs.

Someone mentioned it can be done but ill need stats up and downstairs. If so, how do these work and whats involved in the install. What do the stats do

That set-up is just about the same as ours, as far as i understand it, a zoned system on our type of heating system is not a good idea. As a gravity fed system with the boiler stove, it does not need a pump to heat the upstairs, and the hot water cylinder, so in the event of a power cut to the pump, at least the excess heat from a boiler stove will have all that energy and hot water going upstairs, then you can close the air down to the stove and let if go out until the power comes back on, well that is what we do, I think their is a way to get what you want, i heard something about a " heat Genie " although that might be for operating a boiler stove in a closed vent system.

A plumber should know all the latest developments in our type of heating system, although i think nowadays most plumbers know fairly little about solid fuel heating, They are not taught about it as much as they were years ago. So the older the plumber you get to advise you the better i think.

chuck eastwood

I had a similar problem. I fitted a system link set up. I have an oil burner and stove feeding the heated water chamber in the system link and my hotwater/zone1/zone2 are all zoned and pumped. Most plumbers will tell you its madness using a pump for each zone but with the newer pumps like the yonas pico your engery consumption is massively reduced. I reckon ive knocked about a 700ltrs of oil off my usage by zoning per year. No amount of zoned pumps will cost you that. Ill attach a sample layout below

kingbhome

BryanF wrote: »

Zone the heating? Upstairs/downstairs - Speak to a plumber. There may be an seai grant depending on what you’re willing to spend.

yes, looking to zone upstairs and downstairs before winter. Ive heard maybe a wireless stat could be installed also for this. Also, if one needs a large stove to heat all rads, what about if they just want a fire in the stove to heat the room when no one is using the other rooms. Would it still need to burn lots of fuel.

kingbhome

chuck eastwood wrote: »

I had a similar problem. I fitted a system link set up. I have an oil burner and stove feeding the heated water chamber in the system link and my hotwater/zone1/zone2 are all zoned and pumped. Most plumbers will tell you its madness using a pump for each zone but with the newer pumps like the yonas pico your engery consumption is massively reduced. I reckon ive knocked about a 700ltrs of oil off my usage by zoning per year. No amount of zoned pumps will cost you that. Ill attach a sample layout below

I will have to show the plumber this.

Why do plumbers say its madness for a pump on each zone?

anthonyos

kingbhome wrote: »

I will have to show the plumber this.

Why do plumbers say its madness for a pump on each zone?

cost

chuck eastwood

anthonyos wrote: »

cost

What would the cost difference be. A Honeywell V4043H 2 port motorised valve will consume 6W as stated by the manufacturer. A wilo pico yonos consumes 3W and adjustable upwards with a built in VSD. Valve is about €15, pump €120. The cost isnt really an issuse when the power consumption is half that of the valve.