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Dublin Tech Summit

  • 03-04-2018 11:22pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 114 ✭✭mrwhimwham


    Just seen that the tickets for the Dublin Tech Summit have completely different pricing for men and women. A man's ticket would set you back 350 euro while a woman's ticket only costs 60. I'm all for trying to get women into STEM but how can this type of inequality be allowed?

    http://dublintechsummit.com/tickets/#women


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭TomSweeney


    Can I just show up with my beard and identify as a woman ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 262 ✭✭emeraldwinter


    I can see all the Feminists now shouting for equal treatment and demanding to pay the difference ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,785 ✭✭✭KungPao


    In fairness, after the event they still have to go home, take out the bins, do the dishes, feed the baby...maybe some dusting.

    It all evens out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 829 ✭✭✭Ronaldinho


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Can I just show up with my beard and identify as a woman ?

    Of course you can

    Edit: or rather it would seem very discriminatoryif you couldn't.


  • Posts: 2,001 [Deleted User]


    Very ominous “individual” for anyone else non investor. It’s ill thought out rubbish like this that causes a massive backlash against well meaning ideas like encouraging more women participation in areas like tech.

    I’m pretty sure i seen an article where a irish nightclub was given a slap for trying to charge different price for men vs women like you often see in the US. It’s clearly discrimination based on gender.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,562 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Can I just show up with my beard and identify as a woman ?
    Was going to say. Is it like that its4women insurance trading name, where they get away with advertising for women but won't do anything to stop anyone else signing up. It's not inequality of they don't enforce it. I just see an opportunity here for cheap tickets for all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭gctest50


    meh

    http://dublintechsummit.com/tickets/#investors


    = free :)

    supertechinvestorz.com = 5 dolla


    sorted


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,744 ✭✭✭diomed


    I wouldn't go if they paid me.
    What is it about? Startup and burn?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,254 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Im a talking skull, seems unfair ive to pay the same as the rest of you full bodied folk

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 262 ✭✭emeraldwinter


    Im a talking skull, seems unfair ive to pay the same as the rest of you full bodied folk

    Ah will you not just skull off and not bring a bone or will i have to rib you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭munster87




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    I work in the tech industry and there is so much women in technology scholarships (with a job at the end), mentors for women, conferences for women, etc. So much that I managed to convince my daughter to get study BIS. She is constantly getting invited to women only events, scholarships, job offers for after graduation. I'm chuffed for her. I have two sons though, feel bad for them...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,684 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    mrwhimwham wrote: »
    Just seen that the tickets for the Dublin Tech Summit have completely different pricing for men and women. A man's ticket would set you back 350 euro while a woman's ticket only costs 60. I'm all for trying to get women into STEM but how can this type of inequality be allowed?

    http://dublintechsummit.com/tickets/#women

    That's beyond stupid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    Genuinely don't see why anyone would want to get involved with this ****e. A monument to hubris if ever there was one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,173 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    JMNolan wrote: »
    I work in the tech industry and there is so much women in technology scholarships (with a job at the end), mentors for women, conferences for women, etc. So much that I managed to convince my daughter to get study BIS. She is constantly getting invited to women only events, scholarships, job offers for after graduation. I'm chuffed for her. I have two sons though, feel bad for them...

    They are trying to get more balance and I think that is he only way tbh.

    We'd struggle to hire female engineers because there simply isn't any.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 300 ✭✭garbo speaks


    The Dublin Tech Summit- a gathering of pretentious, smug, I.T. hipster nobodies designed to make them feel important in their menial and monotonous jobs which consist of them sitting and drooling in front of a computer screen every day. These are the kind of people who clap in awe when charletan speakers utter meaningless buzz-phrases like "We need to stop investing in the present, and start investing in the future".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    listermint wrote: »
    They are trying to get more balance and I think that is he only way tbh.

    We'd struggle to hire female engineers because there simply isn't any.

    Why is balance needed?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,360 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    It's the gender pay gap.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The Dublin Tech Summit- a gathering of pretentious, smug, I.T. hipster nobodies designed to make them feel important in their menial and monotonous jobs which consist of them sitting and drooling in front of a computer screen every day. These are the kind of people who clap in awe when charletan speakers utter meaningless buzz-phrases like "We need to stop investing in the present, and start investing in the future".

    They have the ear of almost every government in the west and are legislating on their ideas.


    They are not nobodies.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    TomSweeney wrote: »
    Can I just show up with my beard and identify as a woman ?

    That's actually a really smart idea.

    I mean what could they say to you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,173 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    JMNolan wrote: »
    Why is balance needed?

    Because the systems that are being designed are being used by both sexes, it stands to reason you would need both perspectives in them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Greybottle


    The Dublin Tech Summit- a gathering of pretentious, smug, I.T. hipster nobodies designed to make them feel important in their menial and monotonous jobs which consist of them sitting and drooling in front of a computer screen every day. These are the kind of people who clap in awe when charletan speakers utter meaningless buzz-phrases like "We need to stop investing in the present, and start investing in the future".

    They also run your life.

    "Be nice to the geeks and nerds, you'll probably end up working for them." ..Bill Gates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    listermint wrote: »
    Because the systems that are being designed are being used by both sexes, it stands to reason you would need both perspectives in them.

    Does it? I couldn't care less what gender wrote the code that implements TLS in my browser or the algorithm which compresses my video files.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    Edz87 wrote: »
    The Dublin Tech Summit- a gathering of pretentious, smug, I.T. hipster nobodies designed to make them feel important in their menial and monotonous jobs which consist of them sitting and drooling in front of a computer screen every day. These are the kind of people who clap in awe when charletan speakers utter meaningless buzz-phrases like "We need to stop investing in the present, and start investing in the future".

    They have the ear of almost every government in the west and are legislating on their ideas.


    They are not nobodies.

    Give it a rest, what legislation has been passed based on their influence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rory28


    How much was it last year? Have the male tickets stayed the same or gone up to compensate for the lowered female tickets?

    I see that people want there to be a balance in the tech industry but if women don't want to work in the tech industry you cant force them too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,183 ✭✭✭jobless


    listermint wrote: »
    Because the systems that are being designed are being used by both sexes, it stands to reason you would need both perspectives in them.

    haha absolute nonsense.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 779 ✭✭✭HONKEY TONK


    While I believe that women and men are given the same opportunities to be hired by a company, I don't believe companies should hire solely to balance the gender ratio.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Red_Wake wrote: »
    Give it a rest, what legislation has been passed based on their influence?

    Zuckerberg or the rest of his ilk never ever meet with state leaders you're right... :rolleyes:




    There's an online chat box thing there people can query the idiotic and discriminatory price structure.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,173 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    JMNolan wrote: »
    Does it? I couldn't care less what gender wrote the code that implements TLS in my browser or the algorithm which compresses my video files.

    You might not care because you are an engineer, Engineers rarely care . The customer however does care. And its rare that an engineers concerns match a customers.

    You should know that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,173 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    jobless wrote: »
    haha absolute nonsense.....

    Discuss....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,185 ✭✭✭Rory28


    listermint wrote: »
    Discuss....

    There is nothing to discuss. There is no male and female version of coding. It works or it doesn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    listermint wrote: »
    You might not care because you are an engineer, Engineers rarely care . The customer however does care. And its rare that an engineers concerns match a customers.

    You should know that.

    In the two examples I have I am the customer. What difference to the implementation of TLS does gender have?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,299 ✭✭✭✭The Backwards Man


    I'll have to boycott this now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,571 ✭✭✭Red_Wake


    Edz87 wrote: »
    Red_Wake wrote: »
    Give it a rest, what legislation has been passed based on their influence?

    Zuckerberg or the rest of his ilk never ever meet with state leaders you're right... :rolleyes:




    There's an online chat box thing there people can query the idiotic and discriminatory price structure.
    Zuckerberg has never appeared at Paddy's Web Summit.

    And even if he had, that still doesn't  mean the likes of Paddy have influenced any legislation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭Ri_Nollaig


    I imagine this is similar to 'its4women.ie' or the like where they will target a particular demography but there is nothing stopping anyone buying any of these tickets.
    I assume they would be up on discrimination grounds if they actual stopped men from buying and using the "women's" ticket otherwise.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 300 ✭✭garbo speaks


    Edz87 wrote: »
    They have the ear of almost every government in the west and are legislating on their ideas.


    They are not nobodies.

    Yea right. The only thing these guys know is the difference between a latte and a macchiato.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,231 ✭✭✭Jim Bob Scratcher


    mrwhimwham wrote: »
    Just seen that the tickets for the Dublin Tech Summit have completely different pricing for men and women. A man's ticket would set you back 350 euro while a woman's ticket only costs 60. I'm all for trying to get women into STEM but how can this type of inequality be allowed?

    http://dublintechsummit.com/tickets/#women

    Now that's what you call equality :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,796 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    The Dublin Tech Summit- a gathering of pretentious, smug, I.T. hipster nobodies designed to make them feel important in their menial and monotonous jobs which consist of them sitting and drooling in front of a computer screen every day. These are the kind of people who clap in awe when charletan speakers utter meaningless buzz-phrases like "We need to stop investing in the present, and start investing in the future".

    37sawpliHBmRsd9B03WsNtukO28=.gif


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    JMNolan wrote: »
    In the two examples I have I am the customer. What difference to the implementation of TLS does gender have?

    The use of the term "clientkey" is both phallicentric and patriarchal, in fact, the whole model is exclusionary.

    You need a female engineer with a credit in Gender Studies to point all this out to you


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭drillyeye


    Bambi wrote: »
    The use of the term "clientkey" is both phallicentric and patriarchal, in fact, the whole model is exclusionary.

    You need a female engineer with a credit in Gender Studies to point all this out to you

    The oppressive patriarchy of gravity must be solved, or else we wont get those hover-boards.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 262 ✭✭emeraldwinter


    The Dublin Tech Summit- a gathering of pretentious, smug, I.T. hipster nobodies designed to make them feel important in their menial and monotonous jobs which consist of them sitting and drooling in front of a computer screen every day. These are the kind of people who clap in awe when charletan speakers utter meaningless buzz-phrases like "We need to stop investing in the present, and start investing in the future".

    Remember the web summit lad on rte crying :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    drillyeye wrote: »
    The oppressive patriarchy of gravity must be solved, or else we wont get those hover-boards.

    We don't have hover boards because because companies won't hire 12 year old engineers who understand how their customers think :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭pumpkin4life


    The Dublin Tech Summit- a gathering of pretentious, smug, I.T. hipster nobodies designed to make them feel important in their menial and monotonous jobs which consist of them sitting and drooling in front of a computer screen every day. These are the kind of people who clap in awe when charletan speakers utter meaningless buzz-phrases like "We need to stop investing in the present, and start investing in the future".

    Making-the-world-a-better-place-1-Silicon-Valley-TV-series.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 419 ✭✭TJ Mackie


    Is this legal? I was under the impression that charging men and women different prices based solely on their sex was against the law, or am I missing something?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 262 ✭✭emeraldwinter


    TJ Mackie wrote: »
    Is this legal? I was under the impression that charging men and women different prices based solely on their sex was against the law, or am I missing something?

    It is but I have a feeling that the Hipster organisers don't think it applies to them. There just trying to be progressive or something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,796 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    It is but I have a feeling that the Hipster organisers don't think it applies to them. There just trying to be progressive or something.

    Anyone fancy making a test case of it?

    https://www.ihrec.ie/your-rights/report-inequality-advertising/


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Wesley Salmon Tether


    300 euro difference is ridiculous.

    Students are cheaper again though. I guess they will get a lot of student attendees


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