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Importing a Cat D

  • 29-03-2018 9:00pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭


    Has anyone any experience of bringing in a Cat D from the UK and if they got a reduction in Revenure's OMSP/VRT?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Revenue treat it the same as a regular car for VRT purposes. You need to be saving a good bit on the purchase price of the car in the UK to make it worth it though as when you go to sell it on in a few years it will be worth less than a non crash repaired car. It could also be more difficult to sell as most buyers who see Cat D on a history report will just automatically run away from it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭jharr100


    I've brought in a Cat N (Non structural damage) car, and had no issues. Bargains can be had from Copart if you are planning on keeping the car for a few years and have a good plan for getting the repair done yourself. There is no reduction on VRT though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    If the condition of the car is bad at the time of your VRT appointment it can be marked down as bad condition. This will give you a reduction. But if the condition is good, has been fixed up there is no reduction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭aidanki


    jharr100 wrote: »
    I've brought in a Cat N (Non structural damage) car, and had no issues. Bargains can be had from Copart if you are planning on keeping the car for a few years and have a good plan for getting the repair done yourself. There is no reduction on VRT though.

    where did you source it from if you don't me asking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,166 ✭✭✭jharr100


    aidanki wrote: »
    where did you source it from if you don't me asking

    I won it at auction on Copart. Had it transported to the North where I got the repairs done and brought it to Cork and registered it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭aidanki


    jharr100 wrote: »
    I won it at auction on Copart. Had it transported to the North where I got the repairs done and brought it to Cork and registered it.

    mind if I asked how the figures stacked up, PM if you prefer

    like you if I went down that route, I would be keeping it for a good many years


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Revenue treat it the same as a regular car for VRT purposes. You need to be saving a good bit on the purchase price of the car in the UK to make it worth it though as when you go to sell it on in a few years it will be worth less than a non crash repaired car. It could also be more difficult to sell as most buyers who see Cat D on a history report will just automatically run away from it.

    I thought a declared Cat D would be a good argument for a reduction in OMSP and subsequent VRT, or possible basis for an appeal.

    michellie wrote: »
    If the condition of the car is bad at the time of your VRT appointment it can be marked down as bad condition. This will give you a reduction. But if the condition is good, has been fixed up there is no reduction.

    Have you experience of this?
    I've brought in vehicles with damage before but the VRT was assessed on them on the OMSP of a non-damaged vehicle. You're saying if I draw their attention to the damage they will offer me a reduced rate of VRT?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Revenue don't look at it that way otherwise cute hoors would be importing cars and taking bits off them for lower VRT and then putting them back together afterwards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Revenue don't look at it that way otherwise cute hoors would be importing cars and taking bits off them for lower VRT and then putting them back together afterwards.

    Yeh, I get that - but they wouldn't be classified salvage vehicles.
    Cat D,N,C, or S has a definite effect on OMSP for the remaining life of the vehicle, and this should be recognised by Revenue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    newmember? wrote: »
    I thought a declared Cat D would be a good argument for a reduction in OMSP and subsequent VRT, or possible basis for an appeal.




    Have you experience of this?
    I've brought in vehicles with damage before but the VRT was assessed on them on the OMSP of a non-damaged vehicle. You're saying if I draw their attention to the damage they will offer me a reduced rate of VRT?

    I do have experience ;) It can be entered into the system as either good/fair/poor. It would have to be falling apart to be entered as poor and it's very rare stuff is put in as that. But crash damaged stuff is often submitted as fair. There's not a huge difference, I think it's like a 2% decrease.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,691 ✭✭✭michellie


    bazz26 wrote: »
    Revenue don't look at it that way otherwise cute hoors would be importing cars and taking bits off them for lower VRT and then putting them back together afterwards.

    Nah, people try this with me and they're told to appeal it directly to revenue for a refund for their "damage". It has to be clear damage and not just parts removed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 152 ✭✭fear corcaigh


    I bought an Audi A4 cat D off copart 2 years ago and got it fixed up before importing.

    Initially I had to pay the full VRT rate but appealed the VRT rate that was applied by explaining that the car was a Cat D and that any future sale values would be reduced because of it's history. I included pictures of the damaged car with the appeal and screen shots of similar cars for sale going for less than the value they estimated my car to be.

    The car needed only bolt on parts, wing, bumper, headlight and bonnet. No airbags and averaged only 6k miles per annum.


    I forgot to include the receipt from NCT in original claim and the guy handling the claim rang me to notify me of the missing documentation. Emailed on the receipt that day to him. I found them very fair and got about 30% back after about 3 weeks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,599 ✭✭✭newmember2


    I bought an Audi A4 cat D off copart 2 years ago and got it fixed up before importing.

    Initially I had to pay the full VRT rate but appealed the VRT rate that was applied by explaining that the car was a Cat D and that any future sale values would be reduced because of it's history. I included pictures of the damaged car with the appeal and screen shots of similar cars for sale going for less than the value they estimated my car to be.

    The car needed only bolt on parts, wing, bumper, headlight and bonnet. No airbags and averaged only 6k miles per annum.


    I forgot to include the receipt from NCT in original claim and the guy handling the claim rang me to notify me of the missing documentation. Emailed on the receipt that day to him. I found them very fair and got about 30% back after about 3 weeks.

    Thanks, good to know, and only fair I think. If I go that way I'll definitely be appealing the VRT.


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