Saudi Arabia admits West spread Wahhabism

Cheerful Spring

Official media is yet to pick up this story! This should be Headline news everywhere.

Washington Post interview

The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed Bin Salman, made a surprising confession, un unexpected admission, recently. He acknowledged his country’s evil role in the spread of religious extremism in the world.

Currently, in the United States where he began a visit on Saturday, Riyadh’s strongman said that the kingdom began spreading the germ of Wahhabism on Western orders during the Cold War.

Saudi Arabia’s Western allies wanted to counter the Soviet Union at the time to prevent it from penetrating or gaining influence in the Muslim world.

In addition to spreading Wahhabism, which is the basis of international terrorism, the Crown Prince also acknowledged that Saudi governments lost heir way ( 9/11?) and that things have to go “back to normal”.

He tried to clear his country from charges that it is directly funding terrorism, saying that the money is coming from private sources, not the government.

http://asianews.it/news-en/Wahhabism,-terrorism-and-the-'confessions'-of-a-Saudi-prince-43465.html

Are Am Eye

Salafism is how they refer to their faith. Not Wahhabism. Which is the
first warning light in this post.

No actually Cheerful Spring posting is the first warning :pac:

Tom Mann Centuria

The really strong horseradish type stuff you get with sushi?

TheValeyard

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

The really strong horseradish type stuff you get with sushi?

Cure any blocked nose

For Forks Sake

Tom Mann Centuria wrote: »

The really strong horseradish type stuff you get with sushi?

Yeah. Some folk worship the stuff. Or so I'm led to believe.

Gringo180

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Official media is yet to pick up this story!]

How surprising.

Ipso

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Official media is yet to pick up this story! This should be Headline news everywhere.

Washington Post interview

The Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed Bin Salman, made a surprising confession, un unexpected admission, recently. He acknowledged his country’s evil role in the spread of religious extremism in the world.

Currently, in the United States where he began a visit on Saturday, Riyadh’s strongman said that the kingdom began spreading the germ of Wahhabism on Western orders during the Cold War.

Saudi Arabia’s Western allies wanted to counter the Soviet Union at the time to prevent it from penetrating or gaining influence in the Muslim world.

In addition to spreading Wahhabism, which is the basis of international terrorism, the Crown Prince also acknowledged that Saudi governments lost heir way ( 9/11?) and that things have to go “back to normal”.

He tried to clear his country from charges that it is directly funding terrorism, saying that the money is coming from private sources, not the government.

http://asianews.it/news-en/Wahhabism,-terrorism-and-the-'confessions'-of-a-Saudi-prince-43465.html

So Saudi Arabia is the wesht?

Cheerful Spring

Gringo180 wrote: »

How surprising.

Look at the reaction on here though :eek: So Saudi Arabia reveals the West was involved in spreading terror, but per usual the same faces say nothing to see here.

Hitman3000

So a bit like the Crusaders spreading Christianity to the East?

Are Am Eye

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Look at the reaction on here though :eek: So Saudi Arabia reveals the West was involved in spreading terror, but per usual the same faces say nothing to see here.

They like to dine with devil and run with the fox.
They want jam on both sides of their pita.

gandalf

Hang on if this is a Washington Post interview why isn't that the article you are quoting ?

Cheerful Spring

Ipso wrote: »

So Saudi Arabia is the wesht?

The Saudi-funded spread of Wahhabism began as a result of Western countries asking Riyadh to help counter the Soviet Union during the Cold War, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told the Washington Post.
Speaking to the paper, bin Salman said that Saudi Arabia's Western allies urged the country to invest in mosques and madrassas overseas during the Cold War, in an effort to prevent encroachment in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union.

That never stopped it continued on till this very day. We know who armed Isis and Al Qaeda in Iraq and Syria. 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi they met with Saudi officials when they came to America.

gandalf

Have you got a link to the original article in the Washington Post?

Are Am Eye

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

The Saudi-funded spread of Wahhabism began as a result of Western countries asking Riyadh to help counter the Soviet Union during the Cold War, Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman told the Washington Post.
Speaking to the paper, bin Salman said that Saudi Arabia's Western allies urged the country to invest in mosques and madrassas overseas during the Cold War, in an effort to prevent encroachment in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union.

That never stopped it continued on till this very day. We know who armed Isis and Al Qaeda in Iraq and Syria. 15 of 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi they met with Saudi officials when they came to America.

Some questions to ask in relation to this -

What are the Prince's motives for making these assertions?
His story certainly puts his family in a good light and a full weight of blame elsewhere. Is he making this up completely? Or putting a spin on something that was there to an extent. Or is he being completely accurate.

To assist with answering these questions what evidence is available to corroborate his claims?

Cheerful Spring

gandalf wrote: »

Have you got a link to the original article in the Washington Post?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/saudi-prince-denies-kushner-is-in-his-pocket/2018/03/22/701a9c9e-2e22-11e8-8688-e053ba58f1e4_story.html?utm_term=.d989772d0aa5

Cheerful Spring

Are Am Eye wrote: »

Some questions to ask in relation to this -

What are the Prince's motives for making these assertions?
His story certainly puts his family in a good light and a full weight of blame elsewhere. Is he making this up completely? Or putting a spin on something that was there to an extent. Or is he being completely accurate.

To assist with answering these questions what evidence is available to corroborate his claims?

He basically told us what the western allies did during the cold war. Previously unknown stuff telling Saudi Arabia to invest in mosques and madrassas overseas during the Cold War, in an effort to prevent encroachment in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union

hatrickpatrick

Is anyone surprised? Western powers literally threw every single ethical principle they claimed to believe in out the window in their Quest to win the Cold War, which itself was literally a pathetic, schoolyard-ish argument over "our way of living is better than your way, and you can't impose your way on the world - because we want to impose ours on the world".

In future centuries, it and its ongoing ramifications will be remembered as one of the most childish, irresponsible, and ultimately disastrous examples of megalomaniacs being allowed to govern world policy and literally throw hundreds of millions of people under the bus for no purpose other than satisfying their pitiful egos.

AllForIt

What's Wahhabism? Is if the belief that sushi should be only be eaten with a hot sauce?

gandalf

To be honest both sides supported absolute ***** during the cold war. So what its not exactly a major relevation now is it. The US armed the Mujahedeen during the Russian occupation of Afghanistan and they sowed the seeds for the Taliban to bite them in the ass.

Ipso

Shouldn't the thread title be Saudi Arabia blames West?
And you are telling us the Saudis aren't to be trusted for various legitimate reasons, but now we are to believe the Saudis when they blame someone else for stuff they done?

Cheerful Spring

AllForIt wrote: »

What's Wahhabism? Is if the belief that sushi should be only be eaten with a hot sauce?

In July 2013, Wahhabism was identified by the European Parliament in Strasbourg as the main source of global terrorism.

Wahhabism has become increasingly influential, partly because of Saudi money and partly because of Saudi Arabia's central influence as protector of Mecca.

Are Am Eye

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

He basically told us what the western allies did during the cold war. Previously unknown stuff telling Saudi Arabia to invest in mosques and madrassas overseas during the Cold War, in an effort to prevent encroachment in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union

Yeah - nothing to corroborate it with.
He said, he said. He probably also said that he got a trial with Arsenal when he was 16 and could have played professionally. Only he was busy being a Prince and sitting on billions while his subjects have sweet fuck all.

baylah17

AllForIt wrote: »

What's Wahhabism? Is if the belief that sushi should be only be eaten with a hot sauce?

It can only be eaten if its Halal:D:D:D

Cheerful Spring

gandalf wrote: »

To be honest both sides supported absolute ***** during the cold war. So what its not exactly a major relevation now is it. The US armed the Mujahedeen during the Russian occupation of Afghanistan and they sowed the seeds for the Taliban to bite them in the ass.

Totally different event.

Saudi Arabia just admitted the West urged the country to invest in mosques and madrassas overseas during the Cold War, in an effort to prevent encroachment in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union. This was where jihadists got recruited from including places in the UK.

Are Am Eye

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Saudi Arabia just admitted .

No it didn't. One man made a claim.

Ipso

If they just ask them to stop building Mosques now, I'm sure they'll just stop.

Phoebas

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Official media is yet to pick up this story! This should be Headline news everywhere.

Washington Post interview
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The Washington Post doesn't qualify as 'Official media'?

Cheerful Spring

Are Am Eye wrote: »

No it didn't. One man made a claim.

You think the leader of Saudi Arabia is not aware of his own country history? His the man in charge now.

Phoebas

Ipso wrote: »

If they just ask them to stop building Mosques now, I'm sure they'll just stop.

That seems to be the gist of it.

Asked about the Saudi-funded spread of Wahhabism, the austere faith that is dominant in the kingdom and that some have accused of being a source of global terrorism, Mohammed said that investments in mosques and madrassas overseas were rooted in the Cold War, when allies asked Saudi Arabia to use its resources to prevent inroads in Muslim countries by the Soviet Union.

Successive Saudi governments lost track of the effort, he said, and now “we have to get it all back.” Funding now comes largely from Saudi-based “foundations,” he said, rather than from the government.

Are Am Eye

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You think the leader of Saudi Arabia is not aware of his own country history? His the man in charge now.

I made no comment on whether the Prince is aware of history or not. I said Saudi Arabia didn't say anything. To begin with it doesn't have a mouth. It is a geo political entity or area of land on the earth. And doesn't speak.

Ipso

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You think the leader of Saudi Arabia is not aware of his own country history? His the man in charge now.

You have given us reasons why they shouldn't be trusted but we should now believe them when it gives them a reason that absolves them of blame.

Harry Palmr

Why is this being posted as some sort of revelation - everyone knows that the CIA backed extreme Islam against The Soviets in Afghanistan.

As an aside it's interesting to watch the The Living Daylights (1987) which touches upon the war there, the local Mujahideen and Bond cooperate with a cheery Art Malik as Kamran Shah. Looks so incongruous now.

Del2005

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

You think the leader of Saudi Arabia is not aware of his own country history? His the man in charge now.

They might have been asked to spread it to Muslim countries I'm sure it was their idea to spread it to non Muslim countries.

gandalf

No guys I'm convinced Cheerful Spring has done us a big favour. He just proved that the so-called Superpowers used whatever means necessary to do each over during the cold war. What a relevation ! My eyes are opened :rolleyes:

Cheerful Spring

gandalf wrote: »

No guys I'm convinced Cheerful Spring has done us a big favour. He just proved that the so-called Superpowers used whatever means necessary to do each over during the cold war. What a relevation ! My eyes are opened :rolleyes:

Of course, you don't care this ideology was supported by the west and spread. Its Western allies favourite 'terrorist' I sure all the millions who died since will be delighted reading your post.

ohnonotgmail

Is this a good time to talk about scottish country dancing?

gandalf

I have already stated that the US supported groups for short term gains without any foresight into where that would lead. The goes the same for the other side of the cold war coin. That body count that you refer to Cheerful Spring exists because of the folly of both sides. Anyone who denies that fact is deluded in the extreme.

alchemist33

Cheerful Spring wrote: »

Of course, you don't care this ideology was supported by the west and spread. Its Western allies favourite 'terrorist' I sure all the millions who died since will be delighted reading your post.

What are you saying here? Boardsies are literate zombies?

Are Am Eye

Your pal the Prince of Oil and Money. He's the good guy is he.

Harry Palmr

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Is this a good time to talk about scottish country dancing?

It's never a good time to talk about Scottish dancing.