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Advice on marriage and stamp 4 for non-eu spouse

  • 27-03-2018 1:45am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4


    I am a non-eu national and I am currently studying in Ireland. I am in a relationship with an Irish person residing in Ireland, we love each other a lot and we both want to get married someday soon. However, as per requirements, he doesn't have a job and doesn't meet the minimum 40,000 euros requirement and has been reliant on social welfare. Is there anyway we can be married and still be living together despite that, considering I am a non-eu citizen? We love each other a lot and would not want to be at risk of living far apart after marriage. This requirement has been kind of worrying for us. Is there anything that can be done about it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,904 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    mi_miracle wrote: »
    However, as per requirements, he doesn't have a job and doesn't meet the minimum 40,000 euros requirement and has been reliant on social welfare.

    What €40,000 requirement is that exactly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 mi_miracle


    As mentioned on INIS's website: "An Irish citizen, in order to sponsor an immediate family member, must not have been totally or predominantly reliant on benefits from the Irish State for a continuous period in excess of 2 years immediately prior to the application and must over the three year period prior to application have earned a cumulative gross income over and above any State benefits of not less than 40k euros."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,904 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    My understanding is that is for when he is sponsoring a family member. If you are already in Ireland legally, then that doesn't apply. I don't believe there is anything stopping you getting married and living together now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4 mi_miracle


    Oh alright! Thanks! In that case, what documents are required while applying for a stamp 4?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,806 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    mi_miracle wrote: »
    I am a non-eu national and I am currently studying in Ireland. I am in a relationship with an Irish person residing in Ireland, we love each other a lot and we both want to get married someday soon. However, as per requirements, he doesn't have a job and doesn't meet the minimum 40,000 euros requirement and has been reliant on social welfare. Is there anyway we can be married and still be living together despite that, considering I am a non-eu citizen? We love each other a lot and would not want to be at risk of living far apart after marriage. This requirement has been kind of worrying for us. Is there anything that can be done about it?

    As others pointed out, the eur 40,000 does not apply when one is getting married to an irish nation and already are here legally.

    There was a bit of a "go-slow" for marragies involving non-citizen last year, pending some regulation change, not sure if/how it got resolved in the end.

    Getting Stamp 4 after marrage is not totally guaranteed however.


  • Administrators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,774 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭hullaballoo


    A refusal of a stamp 4 in these circumstances is wide open for review, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,849 ✭✭✭condra


    Seems quite absurd that the most beautiful form of immigration, (true integration) is so difficult in this country.


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