Affected Accents.

kneemos

I'd be sceptical about this being a thing.
How would you keep it up 24/7?

Mrcaramelchoc

Its none of my Buisness if you can't keep it up.

Sidebaro

kneemos wrote:

I'd be sceptical about this being a thing. How would you keep it up 24/7?

I suppose if you care enough to do it then it will eventually become second nature. Like Liam Gallaghers silly walk.

The_Valeyard

Sidebaro wrote: »

. Like Liam Gallaghers silly walk.

Better check with the Ministry for Silly Walks to make sure its acceptable..

OldMrBrennan83

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cdeb

Sidebaro wrote: »

I suppose if you care enough to do it then it will eventually become second nature. Like Liam Gallaghers silly walk.

Or like saying "24/7" 24/7.

wakka12

Some people just pick it up naturally. I remember as a kid Id do it a lot, when we went to france on summer holidays for a few month there was loads of irish on our campsite. I was about 8 or 9 and had lived in dublin all my life, was hanging out with a bunch of children from kerry the whole holiday, started speaking like I was from kerry too because I was around them so much. My mam bet that out of fairly fast!

kumate_champ07

Sidebaro wrote: »

I suppose if you care enough to do it then it will eventually become second nature. Like Liam Gallaghers silly walk.

you dont think that his walk might be a true expression of how he genuinely feels? and the fact he hasnt changed it much might mean he doesnt care what others think, which is why he walks like that in the first place

4068ac1elhodqr

Sidebaro wrote: »

Like Liam Gallaghers silly walk.

Surely that's something to do with being a Neanderthal

Captain Red Beard

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

you dont think that his walk might be a true expression of how he genuinely feels? and the fact he hasnt changed it much might mean he doesnt care what others think, which is why he walks like that in the first place

He walks like that because Ian Browne walked like that.

Sidebaro

kumate_champ07 wrote:

you dont think that his walk might be a true expression of how he genuinely feels? and the fact he hasnt changed it much might mean he doesnt care what others think, which is why he walks like that in the first place

Not sure what you're asking me here? I'm not saying he should stop doing it or silly walks should be banned. I'm saying it's a walk that he has effected and it's not his natural walk. Like the accents thing the OP was about?

Pac1Man

Google Mackenzie Dern, the MMA fighter. She grew up in the States somewhere but has Brazilian parents. She used to speak with a full American accent but has now gone full Brazilian, possibly to relate to the people of Brazil. Getting a lot of flack for it.

kumate_champ07

Sidebaro wrote: »

Not sure what you're asking me here? I'm not saying he should stop doing it or silly walks should be banned. I'm saying it's a walk that he has effected and it's not his natural walk. Like the accents thing the OP was about?

ive changed my state of mind on occasion and noticed my walk becoming more relaxed/flowy

what is a natural walk? is it universal with rules? or is it an expression of self thru movement. im not saying nobody tries to change how they walk, just like somepople change their accents, but ive watched alot of interviews with Liam and he seems like the real deal.

kumate_champ07

Pac1Man wrote: »

Google Mackenzie Dern, the MMA fighter. She grew up in the States somewhere but has Brazilian parents. She used to speak with a full American accent but has now gone full Brazilian, possibly to relate to the people of Brazil. Getting a lot of flack for it.

that is strange one, but i would give her the benefit of doubt that its just her picking up accents very easily, some people are like that. shes spending most of her life with Brazilians now via BJJ

mada999

smort is smartor

Brendan Bendar

The little man up in the Park surely is the doyen of this stuff.

Talk about affected and put on....... unbelievable.

Pac1Man

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

that is strange one, but i would give her the benefit of doubt that its just her picking up accents very easily, some people are like that. shes spending most of her life with Brazilians now via BJJ

Forgot to mention, she now speaks broken English with poor grammar now too.

Sidebaro

kumate_champ07 wrote:

ive changed my state of mind on occasion and noticed my walk becoming more relaxed/flowy

kumate_champ07 wrote:

what is a natural walk? is it universal with rules? or is it an expression of self thru movement. im not saying nobody tries to change how they walk, just like somepople change their accents, but ive watched alot of interviews with Liam and he seems like the real deal.

A natural walk is how you originally walk. It's not universal, nor does it have rules, but it is the most common way you walk - the way that naturally comes to you. I feel like you're taking great offence on the part of Liam Gallagher because I've merely stated that his effected walk is not the way he has always walked? I wasn't having a go at him, I was comparing it to how people change their accents.

Having said that, I do believe that Liam is a wannabe, try-hard, fake, annoying, attention seeking, deeply troubled tool and his behaviour is pathetic and toxic at times. Other than that he's okay.

Brendan Bendar

Sidebaro wrote: »

A natural walk is how you originally walk. It's not universal, nor does it have rules, but it is the most common way you walk - the way that naturally comes to you. I feel like you're taking great offence on the part of Liam Gallagher because I've merely stated that his effected walk is not the way he has always walked? I wasn't having a go at him, I was comparing it to how people change their accents.

Having said that, I do believe that Liam is a wannabe, try-hard, fake, annoying, attention seeking, deeply troubled tool and his behaviour is pathetic and toxic at times. Other than that he's okay.

With you on that, dude, complete cretin would be my assessment.

s7ryf3925pivug

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

With you on that, dude, complete cretin would be my assessment.

Deliberately adjusting your posture or walk is fine per se; trying to keep good posture avoids back/hip/knee issues and can affect how people respond to you.

Can't remember Liam Gallagher's walk but I'm guessing it's an aggressive swagger from the context. Reacting negatively to exhibitionist aggression is normal I think.

That sort of walk is common with angry young men with bad self esteem trying to prove themselves in a misguided manner. I suspect Liam Gallagher walking like that is not a genuine expression of himself but a cynical way of encouraging his fanbase to relate to him.

Billy86

kneemos wrote: »

I'd be sceptical about this being a thing.
How would you keep it up 24/7?

I grew up in a shop and usually had to answer the phone if people were busy, nowadays at work when I'm on the phone I apparently sound completely different and never even notice I'm doing it!

s7ryf3925pivug

Billy86 wrote: »

I grew up in a shop and usually had to answer the phone if people were busy, nowadays at work when I'm on the phone I apparently sound completely different and never even notice I'm doing it!

More precise diction and careful modulation are normal in more formal settings, or when talking to people who might not understand your normal speech easily. Not the same as affecting an accent.

Billy86

Esmeralda Careful Chrysalis wrote: »

More precise diction and careful modulation are normal in more formal settings, or when talking to people who might not understand your normal speech easily. Not the same as affecting an accent.

Yeah fair point I suppose, I guess the next closest I have it over enunciating the letter T and speaking a bit slower/more considered after living in Australia or Canada (I literally had Swedish people translating what I said for some rural Canadians at one point when I first got to Aus, and I've got a mild south Dublin [not D4! ] accent).

In terms of people consciously doing it from one group of friends to the next, I've got no idea how or why they would.

Brendan Bendar

Billy86 wrote: »

Yeah fair point I suppose, I guess the next closest I have it over enunciating the letter T and speaking a bit slower/more considered after living in Australia or Canada (I literally had Swedish people translating what I said for some rural Canadians at one point when I first got to Aus, and I've got a mild south Dublin [not D4! ] accent).

In terms of people consciously doing it from one group of friends to the next, I've got no idea how or why they would.

Mild South Dublin!!

No such thing ... well maybe Ballybrack,Dalkey stuff.

Dessie Cahill kind of accent......where the ‘y’ in Kerry is pronounced ‘ie’

Not a good one I’m afraid... unless it’s the ‘Ternuire’ one.

:eek:

kumate_champ07

Sidebaro wrote: »

A natural walk is how you originally walk. It's not universal, nor does it have rules, but it is the most common way you walk - the way that naturally comes to you. I feel like you're taking great offence on the part of Liam Gallagher because I've merely stated that his effected walk is not the way he has always walked? I wasn't having a go at him, I was comparing it to how people change their accents.

Having said that, I do believe that Liam is a wannabe, try-hard, fake, annoying, attention seeking, deeply troubled tool and his behaviour is pathetic and toxic at times. Other than that he's okay.

i take your point,but i think hes misunderstood, he seems arrogant but hes aware of his talent as a live vocalist/entertainer, hes actually very down to earth. id recomended watching this as its recent and i think hes gone thru alot of personal growth, he walks alot in it too!
even if you dont change your mind after viewing it, i think you will be entertained

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPTkbaq7mUY

Sidebaro

kumate_champ07 wrote:

i take your point,but i think hes misunderstood, he seems arrogant but hes aware of his talent as a live vocalist/entertainer, hes actually very down to earth. id recomended watching this as its recent and i think hes gone thru alot of personal growth, he walks alot in it too! even if you dont change your mind after viewing it, i think you will be entertained

That's Noel. I've a lot more time for him. They're both very entertaining but only Noel is likeable. Noel is real, Liam is real annoying.

Brendan Bendar

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

The little man up in the Park surely is the doyen of this stuff.

Talk about affected and put on....... unbelievable.

What amazes me is that he seems to get away with it, when it seems so extremely contrived to me that everyone should be pointing it out.

endacl

Sidebaro wrote: »

I suppose if you care enough to do it then it will eventually become second nature. Like Liam Gallaghers silly walk.

kumate_champ07

Sidebaro wrote: »

That's Noel. I've a lot more time for him. They're both very entertaining but only Noel is likeable. Noel is real, Liam is real annoying.

i dont know why the wrong video came up, i fixed the link

GMSA

Shane Ross and Martin Mansergh suffer from this complaint as well.

Sidebaro

kumate_champ07 wrote:

i dont know why the wrong video came up, i fixed the link

A lot more subdued than he normally shows himself but I still see a man who's not comfortable in himself, trying too hard to appear to be the way he thinks he's supposed to or something.

jimmythedivil

Saoirse ('loike inertia') Ronan

bogmanfan

I know a few people who speak with very south county dublin accents, even though they came from working class parts of Dublin. When I met their siblings and schoolmates they all spoke with stronger working class Dublin accents. It's strange that you could grow up in a house, and go to the same school as people, yet speak completely differently. Has to be a put on accent.

Noveight

I've a lecturer in college who I'm totally convinced puts on a more refined, unusual accent just to sound like one of those "quirky" academic type.

The big feckin' twerp.

kumate_champ07

Sidebaro wrote: »

A lot more subdued than he normally shows himself but I still see a man who's not comfortable in himself, trying too hard to appear to be the way he thinks he's supposed to or something.

maybe. maybe i just see the good in people. and i cant force others to do so.

Sidebaro

kumate_champ07 wrote:

maybe. maybe i just see the good in people. and i cant force others to do so.

How about this - I like Liam the musician, Liam the person is ok but Liam the celebrity is a clown. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly. He's a retro Conor McGregor!

seamus

kneemos wrote: »

I'd be sceptical about this being a thing.
How would you keep it up 24/7?

Some people are naturally more "lyrical" and have a tendency to adapt how they speak to the local conditions. You know, those people who go off to Sydney for 3 months and come back Australian. It's not put on, it's just something that happens to some people.

You have the other people who go to Texas with the thickest Kerry accent and come back after a decade still sounding like they just came down from the reeks yesterday.

I know a girl who's from deep in the inner city, went off to study as a solicitor, but felt that her heavy Dublin accent was going to hold her back so went to elocution lessons.

She swung entirely the opposite way, the poshest most ridiculous accent you've ever heard. But it sticks. It's not put on. When she's hammered drunk, the accent is rock solid.