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Can a limited company be the school patron?

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  • 21-03-2018 3:28pm
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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    Has anyone ever come across this before, I'm considering a school for my kids but the setup of the school seems unusual. For example the secondary school is DES registered but as a limited company???

    Seems like a very unusual setup, has anyone ever seen this type of arrangement before?


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    spurious
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    Some Gaelscoileanna are technically under a limited company, An Foras Pátrúnachta na Scoileanna LánGhaeilge Teo.

    An Foras Patrunachta


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    spurious wrote: »
    Some Gaelscoileanna are technically under a limited company, An Foras Pátrúnachta na Scoileanna LánGhaeilge Teo.

    An Foras Patrunachta

    Is that an actual Ltd under the Companies Act? It could be an unincorporated entity.


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    spurious
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    Xander Shaggy Piranha wrote: »
    Is that an actual Ltd under the Companies Act? It could be an unincorporated entity.

    I have no idea what that means.


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    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    spurious wrote: »
    I have no idea what that means.

    There doesn't seem be a limited company with that name so how do you know it's a company?

    Some people refer to businesses or groups as a company however a limited company has a specific status within the companies act which is why it is unusual for a school to be operated through a limited company because they are within the scope of the Companies Act as opposed to Education Act 1988.


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    spurious
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    It is described as a limited company in a number of Irish language websites.
    One such site (translation) describes it "The Foundation is a limited company without a share capital".

    I don't know, can you call yourself a limited company if you're not?
    Should this be in Legal Discussion?

    What difference would it make to day to day running/child's experience of the school?
    Is the school you were considering a Gaelscoil?


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    byhookorbycrook
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    Educate Together is also under the patronage of a limited company:
    https://www.educatetogether.ie/about/boards-of-management

    For me, it would depend on whether the school was part of a nationwide company, like the Foras Gaelscoileanna and the ETs or a "one off."
    One or two one or places have odd set ups and rules. Remember this one?
    https://www.education.ie/en/Publications/Inspection-Reports-Publications/Whole-School-Evaluation-Reports-List/report2_65241N.htm


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    bpmurray
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    Many charities are actually Companies Limited by Guarantee (ClG) - I imagine a charity being a patron would not be unusual.


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