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VRT refund query

  • 21-03-2018 1:30pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭


    Hi there. I registered my Irish car in the UK a couple of months ago and applied for a VRT refund. However, I got this reply from revenue,
    "I note that the status of the above vehicle is still marked "current" on the National Vehicle Driver File (NVDF) indicating that this vehicle is as yet registered in the State. Please be advised that this office is unable to approve a refund of VRT on your vehicle under the VRT Export Refund scheme until the NVDF has been updated with the new UK registration details."
    I wasn't aware that this is another condition for a VRT refund. Do I need to just wait for it or is there anything I can do in the meantime?
    Will appreciate any pointers.
    Cheers.


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,688 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    They need to know it's gone out of state and be en registered in another country.
    I assumed that would be automatic once the actual registration took place in UK however it seems not in this case at least.
    can you personally end info to vehicle registration people I wonder. Copy of UK v5 would surely do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Confirm with the DVLA that they have registered the vehicle in the UK and sent the VLC back to Shannon/Ireland.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭kayser


    Thanks guys. I have the v5c and a letter from dvla stating the vehicle is registered. I will send copies to Shannon and ask them to remove my car from the system. I was expecting that this would have been done by dvla at the time of reg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    kayser wrote: »
    Thanks guys. I have the v5c and a letter from dvla stating the vehicle is registered. I will send copies to Shannon and ask them to remove my car from the system. I was expecting that this would have been done by dvla at the time of reg.

    Did you send those (copy of V5C and letter from dvla) to revenue together with VRTER2 form that you filled?

    Sending them a proof of registration abroad is one of the conditions of receiving VRT refund.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭kayser


    CiniO wrote: »
    kayser wrote: »
    Thanks guys. I have the v5c and a letter from dvla stating the vehicle is registered. I will send copies to Shannon and ask them to remove my car from the system. I was expecting that this would have been done by dvla at the time of reg.

    Did you send those (copy of V5C and letter from dvla) to revenue together with VRTER2 form that you filled?

    Sending them a proof of registration abroad is one of the conditions of receiving VRT refund.
    Hi. I sent the form VRTER2 with the copy of v5c. registration with dvla happened within 3 weeks of the export examination so didn’t need to send other details. I didn’t send the dvla letter though. Was taken a back when revenue said the car has to be taken off the system before they would issue a refund. Guess will have to contact Shannon and ask them to remove it from their system.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    kayser wrote: »
    Hi. I sent the form VRTER2 with the copy of v5c. registration with dvla happened within 3 weeks of the export examination so didn’t need to send other details. I didn’t send the dvla letter though. Was taken a back when revenue said the car has to be taken off the system before they would issue a refund. Guess will have to contact Shannon and ask them to remove it from their system.

    I was in pretty much the same case as you a year ago. Only difference was that car was exported to Poland instead of UK.
    I sent VRTER2 form with copy of Polish registration cert.
    Registration in Poland happened within 3 weeks from VRT export examination, so I didn't have to attach a proof of transporation out of Ireland, but to be 100% sure, I dropped them a ferry ticket as well.

    They paid money back without any questions even adding interest.
    It took a while though. Export examination was early December, car left Ireland before Christmas, registered in Poland early January, I received full Polish reg cert in early February, and then sent VRTER2 with copy of Polish reg cert and ferry ticket to revenue. Money went to account in mid April. I didn't receive any corespondence from them, or any receipt, nothing.

    I'm quite surprised about your story with them requiring car to be deregistered or marked as exported/registered abroad in their NVDF system.

    I would argue with them, that it's not a requirement in VRT export refund legislation, and it's none of your business what they are doing with their database. You were meant to provide a proof that car was registered abroad as per legislation, and you did, so you should be in the clear.
    Afraid though, that it might be actually easier to contact Shannon yourself to ask them to have it marked as exported. Might just be easier and quicker and cheper than arguing with revenue.

    Good luck.
    Let us know how you got on, as I'm planning on exporing another few cars in nearest future with VRT refund.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 301 ✭✭Visconti


    CiniO wrote: »
    I was in pretty much the same case as you a year ago. Only difference was that car was exported to Poland instead of UK.
    I sent VRTER2 form with copy of Polish registration cert.
    Registration in Poland happened within 3 weeks from VRT export examination, so I didn't have to attach a proof of transporation out of Ireland, but to be 100% sure, I dropped them a ferry ticket as well.

    They paid money back without any questions even adding interest.
    It took a while though. Export examination was early December, car left Ireland before Christmas, registered in Poland early January, I received full Polish reg cert in early February, and then sent VRTER2 with copy of Polish reg cert and ferry ticket to revenue. Money went to account in mid April. I didn't receive any corespondence from them, or any receipt, nothing.

    I'm quite surprised about your story with them requiring car to be deregistered or marked as exported/registered abroad in their NVDF system.

    I would argue with them, that it's not a requirement in VRT export refund legislation, and it's none of your business what they are doing with their database. You were meant to provide a proof that car was registered abroad as per legislation, and you did, so you should be in the clear.
    Afraid though, that it might be actually easier to contact Shannon yourself to ask them to have it marked as exported. Might just be easier and quicker and cheper than arguing with revenue.

    Good luck.
    Let us know how you got on, as I'm planning on exporing another few cars in nearest future with VRT refund.

    Sounds like a good earner. .....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,928 ✭✭✭✭Panthro


    I'd never heard of an export certificate until after I'd the feicin car re-imported to the UK.
    Got told no cert of export no refund. Queried what was the point of the car of export. Car had a valid NCT, got exported shannon and DVLA all notified, and had a valid MOT.
    Got told I'd have to re-import NCT tax and insure the car before I can do a certificate of export. Then export the car again to the UK.
    Load a bollllllocks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭kayser


    CiniO wrote: »
    kayser wrote: »
    Hi. I sent the form VRTER2 with the copy of v5c. registration with dvla happened within 3 weeks of the export examination so didn’t need to send other details. I didn’t send the dvla letter though. Was taken a back when revenue said the car has to be taken off the system before they would issue a refund. Guess will have to contact Shannon and ask them to remove it from their system.

    I was in pretty much the same case as you a year ago. Only difference was that car was exported to Poland instead of UK.
    I sent VRTER2 form with copy of Polish registration cert.
    Registration in Poland happened within 3 weeks from VRT export examination, so I didn't have to attach a proof of transporation out of Ireland, but to be 100% sure, I dropped them a ferry ticket as well.

    They paid money back without any questions even adding interest.
    It took a while though. Export examination was early December, car left Ireland before Christmas, registered in Poland early January, I received full Polish reg cert in early February, and then sent VRTER2 with copy of Polish reg cert and ferry ticket to revenue. Money went to account in mid April. I didn't receive any corespondence from them, or any receipt, nothing.

    I'm quite surprised about your story with them requiring car to be deregistered or marked as exported/registered abroad in their NVDF system.

    I would argue with them, that it's not a requirement in VRT export refund legislation, and it's none of your business what they are doing with their database. You were meant to provide a proof that car was registered abroad as per legislation, and you did, so you should be in the clear.
    Afraid though, that it might be actually easier to contact Shannon yourself to ask them to have it marked as exported. Might just be easier and quicker and cheper than arguing with revenue.

    Good luck.
    Let us know how you got on, as I'm planning on exporing another few cars in nearest future with VRT refund.

    Thank you very much. I will try to contact revenue again. I got their reply after I chased it up. Could it be that in your case there was a delay because they were waiting for your car to be taken off nvdf?

    I agree the best course of action would be to send my documents to Shannon and ask them to have it taken off the system. Would you know how do I check my vehicle details online whether still registered with nvdf? I use motorcheck.ie and it still comes up under my previous reg.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    kayser wrote: »
    Thank you very much. I will try to contact revenue again. I got their reply after I chased it up. Could it be that in your case there was a delay because they were waiting for your car to be taken off nvdf?

    I agree the best course of action would be to send my documents to Shannon and ask them to have it taken off the system. Would you know how do I check my vehicle details online whether still registered with nvdf? I use motorcheck.ie and it still comes up under my previous reg.

    I would also like to know how to check the status of a vehicle in NVDF for export.

    I must say, I strongly doubt Polish car registration office bothered to inform Shannon that car was registered there, and even if they did, they would probably send info in Polish which again I very strongly doubt Shannon would bother to translate.
    I'm nearly 100% sure car I exported, registered abroad and got VRT refund for is still there in NVDF database as normal.
    But would be greatful for anyone for any tips how to check it for granted.


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