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Why no coordination between train/bus and bus/ferry

  • 11-03-2018 8:54pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭


    I travel often to Bere Island in Co Cork and to Cliffs of Moher.

    I travel from near Athlone. But...


    The first bus from Galway to Cliffs of Moher leaves 15 minutes before the first train arrives from my station of Clara which is on the main line from Dublin.

    The first ferry from Bere Island arrives in Castletownbere 15 minutes after the only bus that would get me into Cork to catch a train home has left Castletownbere.


    Making both these journeys impossible in one day by public transport.

    Surely it would not be so difficult to coordinate different modes of transport?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭happywithlife


    They are separate companies and this is Ireland- efficiency does not come naturally to most of us it seems.
    The transfer to both of those places are fairly niche I'd imagine. Have you ever contacted those that run those services to highlight the issues? Could the times be slightly adjusted? Though I am aware there could be knock on consequences


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,869 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    But if they changed the times to suit you then someone else would miss their connection because the bus is now leaving earlier


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,085 ✭✭✭Charles Babbage


    I think there is a general problem with trying to use a train to arrive early at any place other than Dublin.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Ah come on now I thought this thread would be about the Rosslare Ferries to France and England not some random ferry to Bere Island.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,796 ✭✭✭✭Jamie2k9


    When you local station is more less a village its not at all practial to have connections to everything. Then you need to consider the numbers connecting to such places.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Ah come on now I thought this thread would be about the Rosslare Ferries to France and England not some random ferry to Bere Island.

    you're the thousandth person to be told there's no demand for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Nomis21 wrote: »
    I travel often to Bere Island in Co Cork and to Cliffs of Moher.

    I travel from near Athlone. But...


    The first bus from Galway to Cliffs of Moher leaves 15 minutes before the first train arrives from my station of Clara which is on the main line from Dublin.

    The first ferry from Bere Island arrives in Castletownbere 15 minutes after the only bus that would get me into Cork to catch a train home has left Castletownbere.


    Making both these journeys impossible in one day by public transport.

    Surely it would not be so difficult to coordinate different modes of transport?

    For every possible journey from every small village to a remote island, yes it would.

    Besides your first journey is possible by changing at Oranmore.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Nomis21


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Ah come on now I thought this thread would be about the Rosslare Ferries to France and England not some random ferry to Bere Island.

    It's not Random for the 180 people who live on Bere island and need to go to Hospital appointments in Cork.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Nomis21


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    For every possible journey from every small village to a remote island, yes it would.

    Besides your first journey is possible by changing at Oranmore.


    The first train to Galway I mention starts in Dublin although it stops in my town on the way. People in Dublin cannot avail of the first bus to Cliffs of Moher from Galway.

    Yes the train stops in Oranmore but the bus does not, even though it goes past Oranmore station and there is no other transport between the train station and the bus stop in Oranmore town.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,397 ✭✭✭howiya


    Nomis21 wrote: »
    The first train to Galway I mention starts in Dublin although it stops in my town on the way. People in Dublin cannot avail of the first bus to Cliffs of Moher from Galway.

    Yes the train stops in Oranmore but the bus does not, even though it goes past Oranmore station and there is no other transport between the train station and the bus stop in Oranmore town.

    Travelling by train from Dublin you can be in Ennis half an hour before the 10:30 350 bus that serves the Cliffs of Moher


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Ah come on now I thought this thread would be about the Rosslare Ferries to France and England not some random ferry to Bere Island.

    Official Ireland is more likely to fix that than to fix train/ferry connections. Why aren't you flying Ryanair? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Vic_08


    Nomis21 wrote: »
    The first train to Galway I mention starts in Dublin although it stops in my town on the way. People in Dublin cannot avail of the first bus to Cliffs of Moher from Galway.

    Lucky then there is a second, third, fourth and fifth bus which can all be connected to in Galway from Dublin by Bus Eireann, Go-bus or Citylink.
    Nomis21 wrote: »
    Yes the train stops in Oranmore but the bus does not, even though it goes past Oranmore station and there is no other transport between the train station and the bus stop in Oranmore town.

    The earlier train from Athlone also arrives in plenty of time for the 10am bus and as pointed out connecting in Ennis is also an option.

    http://www.buseireann.ie/timetables/1477574876-350.pdf

    Bus clearly stops in Oranmore, 15 minutes after train arrival and it passes by the main road outside the train station.

    I am getting the impression you want to complain more than you want to make the actual journey.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,409 ✭✭✭Nomis21


    Vic_08 wrote: »
    Lucky then there is a second, third, fourth and fifth bus which can all be connected to in Galway from Dublin by Bus Eireann, Go-bus or Citylink.



    http://www.buseireann.ie/timetables/1477574876-350.pdf

    Bus clearly stops in Oranmore, 15 minutes after train arrival and it passes by the main road outside the train station.

    I am getting the impression you want to complain more than you want to make the actual journey.

    Well your impression is wrong. Yes I am complaining though. I am complaining about the lack of coordination between bus rail and ferry services in Ireland.

    I stood outside Oranmore station and signalled clearly to the driver to stop and he drove straight past the three of us waiting in the layby.

    There is not enough time to get to the bus stop in Oranmore town from the train station to catch this bus. Why is there no bus stop at Oranmore train station?

    We did not start our journey in Dublin, we started from Clara.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    Nomis21 wrote: »
    Well your impression is wrong. Yes I am complaining though. I am complaining about the lack of coordination between bus rail and ferry services in Ireland.

    I stood outside Oranmore station and signalled clearly to the driver to stop and he drove straight past the three of us waiting in the layby.

    There is not enough time to get to the bus stop in Oranmore town from the train station to catch this bus. Why is there no bus stop at Oranmore train station?

    We did not start our journey in Dublin, we started from Clara.

    It is a shame that you have had to defend yourself for making a legitimate comment. Complaining indeed.


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