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Unlimited FTTC broadband products?

  • 09-03-2018 1:54pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭


    Hi

    Are VM and Sky the only companies offering truly unlimited FTTC?

    And are they the exact same in terms of speed and congestion or will there be issues with sky as reported online?

    Currently with Eir but getting Netflix 4k


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    VM aren't FTTC resellers, they use their own DOCSIS network.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    you wont get far watching alot of Netflix 4k on a 1tb cap, presuming it's been steamed several hours per day.

    Sky offer truly unlimited FTTC and I think they are the only truly unlimited service provider for all of Ireland along with Virgin who are a cable provider.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Gonzo wrote: »
    you wont get far watching alot of Netflix 4k on a 1tb cap, presuming it's been steamed several hours per day.

    Can you even do that though? My understanding was if you take the ven diagram of content available in Ireland and 4K it'd be pretty small.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭muckbrien


    Gonzo wrote: »
    you wont get far watching alot of Netflix 4k on a 1tb cap, presuming it's been steamed several hours per day.

    Sky offer truly unlimited FTTC and I think they are the only truly unlimited service provider for all of Ireland along with Virgin who are a cable provider.

    Is there widespread problems with sky fttc as reported here
    No point switching if theres some problem with the backhaul and 4k starts buffering then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Falconire


    muckbrien wrote: »
    Is there widespread problems with sky fttc as reported here
    No point switching if theres some problem with the backhaul and 4k starts buffering then

    I don't think Sky are offering FTTC yet they just did a Press conference with Siro


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭muckbrien


    Falconire wrote: »
    I don't think Sky are offering FTTC yet they just did a Press conference with Siro

    So sky fibre is an inferior product to eir and vf fttc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 238 ✭✭Falconire


    muckbrien wrote: »
    So sky fibre is an inferior product to eir and vf fttc?

    When you stay sky fiber do you be mean dsl fiber like efiber or do you mean FTTH


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Falconire wrote: »
    I don't think Sky are offering FTTC yet they just did a Press conference with Siro
    muckbrien wrote: »
    So sky fibre is an inferior product to eir and vf fttc?

    No. Sky do FTTC (which is VDSL). They don't do FTTH (nor does Vodafone, on OpenEIRs platform).

    Eir (and Vodafone) have that hidden limit of 1TB in their terms and conditions. Sky is unlimited.

    The only other difference between the providers then is, how good their upstream is. Vodafone got fairly contended with the high internet usage during the snow days. Dunno how Sky users got on.

    4k Streaming takes 25 Mbit/s per stream and uses 7GB per hour streaming. So, hitting those limits can quickly crop up.

    /M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭muckbrien


    Marlow wrote: »
    No. Sky do FTTC (which is VDSL). They don't do FTTH (nor does Vodafone, on OpenEIRs platform).

    Eir (and Vodafone) have that hidden limit of 1TB in their terms and conditions. Sky is unlimited.

    The only other difference between the providers then is, how good their upstream is. Vodafone got fairly contended with the high internet usage during the snow days. Dunno how Sky users got on.

    4k Streaming takes 25 Mbit/s per stream and uses 7GB per hour streaming. So, hitting those limits can quickly crop up.

    /M

    Thanks I'm talking about efiber ( vdsl fttc)not ftth

    Why is there so many complaints here about slow speeds at certain times on sky fttc

    Is the backhaul more congested


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    muckbrien wrote: »
    Thanks I'm talking about efiber ( vdsl fttc)not ftth

    Why is there so many complaints here about slow speeds at certain times on sky fttc

    Is the backhaul more congested

    Could very well be.

    With a lot of customers, it's easy to oversubscribe the network.

    Being unlimited, Sky has to do this, to make up for the cost on the other end. That's why other providers set limits and then charge accordingly, if you exceed ..... or do worse.

    /M


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,170 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    muckbrien wrote: »
    Is the backhaul more congested

    Eir - Own connectivity as far as London
    Vodafone - Own pan european network, 100's M subs
    Sky - Renting the cheapest transit they can from BT


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 17,338 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    ED E wrote: »
    Can you even do that though? My understanding was if you take the ven diagram of content available in Ireland and 4K it'd be pretty small.

    I've no idea how much 4k content is available through Netflix or Sky services but I imagine there is enough of it available to heavily eat through the 1tb cap if a household was watching enough of it.

    With a 1tb cap in place I ain't making any plans to upgrade my Sky Hd box to Sky Q and 4k when that cap is used for everything else such as work, videos and gaming downloads.

    I am still giving consideration to switching to either Digiweb or Airwire when my contract with Eir is up next month. Apart from the cap, I am very happy with the FTTH service from Eir, never seen any contention and silky smooth all the way.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 176 ✭✭muckbrien


    ED E wrote: »
    Eir - Own connectivity as far as London
    Vodafone - Own pan european network, 100's M subs
    Sky - Renting the cheapest transit they can from BT

    No point switching to sky so

    Better to work within the 1TB limit on eir and vf


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 491 ✭✭Some_Person


    Magnet Business Fibre (VDSL) is unlimited.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭raytaxi


    During the snow my house went thru 260Gb couldn't believe it though was 4 using broadband ps4 and netflix. I went into netflix to reduce file size


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