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Flying cars use in Ireland

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Right. So it's basically a gyrocopter with a very basic road-going capability.

    It would have to satisfy all of the regulatory requirements of both the RTA and the IAA.

    Good luck getting insurance on this type of novelty vehicle.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 90,681 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    It's too heavy for a microlight


    https://www.iaa.ie/personnel-licensing/pilot-licences-(eu-regulations)/private-pilot-licence/gyroplane-pilot-licensing-requirements
    Under the Irish Aviation Authority (Personnel Licensing) Orders, a pilot of a gyroplane is required to hold a Private Pilot Licence (Gyroplane) (PPL(G)). A person learning to fly a gyroplane must hold a Student Pilot Licence (abbreviated "SPL") before flying the gyroplane alone ("solo" flying) and he/she may only fly solo when authorised by an appropriately licensed Flight Instructor (see below).


    Technology has caught up as they are testing autonomous drone taxis in Dubai.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,212 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    Right. So it's basically a gyrocopter with a very basic road-going capability.

    It would have to satisfy all of the regulatory requirements of both the RTA and the IAA.

    Good luck getting insurance on this type of novelty vehicle.

    As a US pilot, I can't think of any specific prohibition on the use of roadways to take off or land beyond the generic "acting safely". Then again, the prevalence of regional airfields around here is such that I can't think of any particular reason why it would be necessary on the public road.

    However, yes, it does have to meet the requirements of both a road-going and air-worthy vehicle. It's why not many have been made. There are two schools of thought on design, the traditional one is fixed-wing, such as this Aerocar of the 1950s.
    Flying_Car-hero2.jpg
    I seem to recall it requires 22 different certifications and inspections to be legal.

    The catch with this one is that you need to dismount the wings and tail and turn it into a trailer to tow behind you.

    A more modern take is the Terrafugia, which uses folding wings
    terrafugia-transition.jpg and is a lot simpler.

    The alternative, such as the gyrocopter, is vertical landing. In which case you don't really need a public road, a parking lot or dry field will do nicely. A large-blade gyrocopter is a little unreasonable, or Terrafucia's TF-X, I think, due to the safety risks, but a few design use multiple ducted blades. As aerodynamics are somewhat less critical in these designs, it makes it easier to meet crashworthiness requirements.

    It goes without saying that you need both a pilot's license and a driver's license to operate the vehicles completely. But plenty of people have both, over a half-million of us here in the US.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,105 ✭✭✭hi5


    Perfectly legal:D

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  • Registered Users Posts: 18,871 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    josip wrote: »
    Could a flying car in Ireland legally use the roads to land and takeoff or would they have to use airfields?

    https://newatlas.com/production-version-pal-v-liberty-flying-car/53724/

    I was watching it on the BBC and they said that it needs to use a runway to take off and land as it's a plane. Roads are not for aircraft, unless it's the strategic roads in the USA and Scandinavia for their military.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34 Onymlifestyle


    hi5 wrote: »
    Perfectly legal:D

    hahaha +1


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭TheBoyConor


    Another thing I see as being an obstacle is that all cars sold new in Europe must meet minimum road safety requirements, pedestrian & occupant safety etc. I'd imagine the likes of the gyrocopter here would not meet those minimum standards. I can't see those fixed rear stabilisers performing too well in a pedestrian collision test, nor can I see it performing well in any NCAP test to be honest.

    As MM says above, they are radically different applications and its simply not practical or useful to make such a vehicle.
    That is why they are, and will remain, novelty items.

    The fact that they will only build 90 of the means that being curiosities in someone's rich dudes man-toy shed or hangar because being a hybrid, it is optimised for neither application.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,387 ✭✭✭redcup342


    You need to file a flight plan in Europe to fly

    In the US you don't, it's optional.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34 Onymlifestyle


    Flying cars = goodbay bag checks on ryanair flights :p ALL BAGS FOR FREE :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    josip wrote: »
    Could a flying car in Ireland legally use the roads to land and takeoff or would they have to use airfields?

    The new way of overtaking.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,218 ✭✭✭deandean


    You'd be 10+ years in Ireland trying to get type approval and the paperwork.

    Better to not bother with the car at all :D


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