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I want to change a vehicle from N1 to M1, is it possible

  • 09-03-2018 10:20AM
    #1
    OldGuysRule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭


    I want to take a 5 seater crew cab Landrover D4 and change it to a 7 seater, doing it above board. Does anyone know if it can be done, what is involved, costs?

    The first answer will most be 'why not just get a 7 seater', well I am doing a very favourable deal in late June on a MY15 decent spec Irish 5 seater and it is coming with the third row and fittings, ready to install. I currently have a D3 7 seater

    Anyways, the vehicle has been privately taxed (€1200) since ownership as he has used it as family vehicle, I intend to keep that going.

    So, to go from N1 back to M1 (what is involved?), install the seats (hopefully the easy part), no doubt get an engineer report to sign off (any of the ones who did the numerous crew cab sign offs should do it), presume there is some VRT to pay (how is that calculated)


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  • #2
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Has to be factory built now AFAIK.


  • #3
    OldGuysRule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭OldGuysRule


    Even to go from 5 to 7 seats?


  • #4
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,546 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    If it is possible, you’ll have to pay the VRT which AFAIK is an extra 20% of the OMSP of a passenger version.
    You’d probably need an engineers report at the least as you’re modifying a supposed (we all know they aren’t of course) vehicle designed to be a commercial vehicle.

    Just wondering, if it’s taxed at €1200, is it on emissions tax? Tax disc or motor tax.ie will tell you basis if assessment. Should be cc based if it’s actually registered as a crew cab and taxed privately.


  • #5
    swarlb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,244 ✭✭✭swarlb


    OldGuysRule wrote: »
    I want to take a 5 seater crew cab Landrover D4 and change it to a 7 seater, doing it above board. Does anyone know if it can be done, what is involved, costs?

    The first answer will most be 'why not just get a 7 seater', well I am doing a very favourable deal in late June on a MY15 decent spec Irish 5 seater and it is coming with the third row and fittings, ready to install. I currently have a D3 7 seater

    Anyways, the vehicle has been privately taxed (€1200) since ownership as he has used it as family vehicle, I intend to keep that going.

    So, to go from N1 back to M1 (what is involved?), install the seats (hopefully the easy part), no doubt get an engineer report to sign off (any of the ones who did the numerous crew cab sign offs should do it), presume there is some VRT to pay (how is that calculated)

    If it's a N1 crew cab, why is it taxed privately ?


  • #6
    OldGuysRule
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭OldGuysRule


    It is taxed based on emissions, the 7 seaters are 1200 and all private 5 seater should also be paying 1200 - vast majority are paying the incorrect 333 if they are for private use. The person I am buying it off has used it for private use since purchase and always taxed it at correct level - will be a private sale as we are friends. Can't confirm what it is registered as, have not seen Cert. Will ask for that.

    It is the VRT payment that I am wondering about - don't mind paying as long as it is reasonable. Will need to do more research and then maths. There are a few nice seven seat HSEs around at the moment alright!


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  • #7
    Mc-BigE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,034 ✭✭✭Mc-BigE


    looking into doing this also at the moment, converting Seat ateca 2 seater back to M1, vehicle was first registered N1 from new once brought into the country, it left the seat factory as a car, this is pretty common for car derivative Vans in Ireland.

    once the van is converted to M1 will i have to pay CO2 based Motor tax
    or old Style CC based motor tax.

    Van is currently 333 euro.


  • #8
    CiniO
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,069 ✭✭✭✭CiniO


    OldGuysRule wrote: »
    It is taxed based on emissions, the 7 seaters are 1200 and all private 5 seater should also be paying 1200 - vast majority are paying the incorrect 333 if they are for private use. The person I am buying it off has used it for private use since purchase and always taxed it at correct level - will be a private sale as we are friends. Can't confirm what it is registered as, have not seen Cert. Will ask for that.

    It is the VRT payment that I am wondering about - don't mind paying as long as it is reasonable. Will need to do more research and then maths. There are a few nice seven seat HSEs around at the moment alright!

    If it's registered as N1 vehicle than it can't be taxed under CO2 system (at €1200).

    So either it's already registered as M1 vehicle, or alternatively motortax office allowed to tax it under wrong category by mistake.


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