Selling a car question.

Paullimerick

Just wondering what is the story with selling a car private to a person. They say pay you and you sign the log book. And I say I will post it myself. How do I know they have insurance in it or is it just believe what they say. Or what do people do

akelly02

Paullimerick wrote: »

Just wondering what is the story with selling a car private to a person. They say pay you and you sign the log book. And I say I will post it myself. How do I know they have insurance in it or is it just believe what they say. Or what do people do

It’s not your business if they have insurance once they have bought the car off you

Aska

What I've done in the past also is put the time on the log book in front of them when the deal is done and take a photo of it for your own records as it can cover you if they get done for speeding with the vans and tolls etc on the way home.....

Atlantic Dawn

Once deal done and you sign and you post logbook it's none of your concern what they do with it.

elperello

You could have an envelope ready and post it there and then while the two of you are present. This requires that you meet near a post box of course.

coylemj

The change of ownership legally happens when he pays you and you give him the keys. The person currently registered as the owner may or may not be the legal owner of the car, that has always been the case and it used to be explicitly stated on the old brown registration document.

Paullimerick

Thanks people. It may be a weekend. So no post. But will also write a hand written letter with the time and date on it and make the person sign that also. Photo copy it and give them the copy. It was just a concern I had in case it may come back to bite a fella in the a**e

CJhaughey

I have a pre-addressed stamped envelope handy in my pocket, once the money and keys are handed over I just post it straight away.
The last car I sold was bought by a guy who specialized in Diesel Toyota's after filling the logbook he asked if I would just give him the book, I said its better for both of us to do this right and popped it into the envelope and posted it in front of him.
I did this in a small post office that had a coffee shop attached, very handy.

Supergurrier

What i normally do is post logbook once money clears in bank as genuine and take a pic of logbook on phone with a timestamp.

2 of the last 3 cars i bought recently i've come across checkpoints on the trip home with car so it works out well and both Gardai were suprised by how organised i was

Had one jackass i recently sold a sub 1k hot hatch to try and stiff me with 4 m50 tolls which this sorted. Funny thing is i'd misplaced a key and said if i found it i would sent it on, i burnt it instead when it showed up.

Paullimerick

Anyway lads. Sold the car which he drove and checked out and haggled and bought.
Now the problem arises he rand 4 hours later that the car broke down and went it limp mode.
Wanted to drop it back.
Then said he would agree to mine or his mechanic to fix the car and asked would I pay. I said no or well not all anyway .
I am being reasonable here in saying I would split the bill. But told him to ring after his mechanic had looked at it.
What ye think.
Log book posted

akelly02

Paullimerick wrote: »

Anyway lads. Sold the car which he drove and checked out and haggled and bought.
Now the problem arises he rand 4 hours later that the car broke down and went it limp mode.
Wanted to drop it back.
Then said he would agree to mine or his mechanic to fix the car and asked would I pay. I said no or well not all anyway .
I am being reasonable here in saying I would split the bill. But told him to ring after his mechanic had looked at it.
What ye think.
Log book posted

Very unfortunate but again , not your problem kid

Atlantic Dawn

I'd give him zero, he had time to finance a proper mechanic to check the car out and didn't, his problem, car sold, adios. He could have been driving it like it was stolen and encountered problems, 4 hours would get you anywhere in the country.

Are we talking about a sub €2k car or something costing a lot more? If it's a tiny price his expectations should be that he's not buying a 181 from a main dealer and he should factor in possible repair bills or have it properly checked out by a professional if he hasn't a clue about cars.

eeguy

Paullimerick wrote: »

Anyway lads. Sold the car which he drove and checked out and haggled and bought.
Now the problem arises he rand 4 hours later that the car broke down and went it limp mode.
Wanted to drop it back.
Then said he would agree to mine or his mechanic to fix the car and asked would I pay. I said no or well not all anyway .
I am being reasonable here in saying I would split the bill. But told him to ring after his mechanic had looked at it.
What ye think.
Log book posted

You have no obligation to fix someone elses car.

So it just comes down to whether you feel like giving some cash or not.

Paullimerick

It's a 3 grand car. That's been parked up about 3 months. He got very sh**y first that he was dropping it back and he wanted his money back.

monkeysnapper

Car was sold , they took car on test drive, they had opportunity to get it checked . Deal was done .

What's to say they were not boy racing, reving shyte out of they're new car.

You don't own this car any more... Its not your responsibility .

Update.....from what you said ....

Myself and brother in law bought a car for father and owner told us car had been standing for a few months. We test drove car , were happy , bought it and on way home encountered a few problems ....we didn't go crying like a pussy , we took it on chin , got car sorted and its been a solid car since ....tell them to go f#ck themselves .

eeguy

Paullimerick wrote: »

It's a 3 grand car. That's been parked up about 3 months. He got very sh**y first that he was dropping it back and he wanted his money back.

Wouldn't do it. Could turn into a money pit and you're out a large % of the cost.
A 3k car is bangernomics territory. Bound to be some issues.

Paullimerick

What would ye say to a very pushy guy if he appeared back with the car.

Damien360

Paullimerick wrote: »

It's a 3 grand car. That's been parked up about 3 months. He got very sh**y first that he was dropping it back and he wanted his money back.

You will feel bad but you haven't a clue if he needed a part, took it from yours and then hands you back damaged goods. Private sale and he has no comeback. Did he even bring a mechanic to check it over before handing over cash ? Out if curiosity, what was the car and year and what was the fault.

Paullimerick

An 09 smax. Said it got hot and into limp mode.

monkeysnapper

Paullimerick wrote: »

What would ye say to a very pushy guy if he appeared back with the car.

You had opportunity to get car checked .... Car was OK when it left as you test drove it and were happy to part with your hard earned money .... That car is now yours ... I don't know what happened when you left here .

Its your car now ... Its your baby ... You are the registered owner ...

This person doesn't have a legal leg to stand on as long as you haven't lied and done something to car that's illegal ...

Easier said than done but do not take this car back and do not agree to help....its not your car and seriously not your responsibility .

Paullimerick

I am a plumber who never even really looked under the bonnet. Anything that had to be done was doe to that car. And it wasn't with out its problems down through the years.
Even the other car I got I done timing belt and bits and pieces of repairs on that I didn't ring about.
Just he drove it and liked it.
And should have known that if u buy private u bring a mechanic

Damien360

Paullimerick wrote: »

An 09 smax. Said it got hot and into limp mode.

At the risk of sounding like the guy from life of Brian and the Gourd....What was wrong with it. 3 grand for that seems low or was the mileage huge ? Surely buyer was aware it was priced competitively and asked why.

Paullimerick

210 thousand miles. I had the car nearly.5 years

That was the reason so low. Have had it on donedeal over 3 months. Just needed it gone

biko

It is a crappy situation but the regulations are clear.
Buyer can inspect car as much as they like but once papers are signed then all responsibility falls to them.
For the buyer it's a crappy situation too because he thought he'd get a cheap great car and then this happens.

The problem could be cheap to fix, you just don't know. Either way, buyer buys the car as seen and could have splashed out on a mechanic but chose not to.

Paullimerick

Yes it was cheap but I just wanted it outta the yard as have another car and van also to park. Milage was high was the main reason I agreed on the price so low.

Henry Ford III

Was there anything knowingly wrong with it when it was sold?

Tinkerbell4484

Bought a car in 2016, looked over the car or whatever, test drive it and seemed fine, got the car home, the very next day the timing belt slipped and damaged the engine.the previous owner had replaced the timing belt a few weeks before but his mechanic hadn’t put it on properly Had to replace the whole engine but it was at my own cost. It was buyer beware.
He has no come back on you. It’s not your problem anymore

Paullimerick

There was nothing wrong with the car in my eyes when I sold it. Used my own phone number. Met him at my house. Like that in itself in my opinion shows I wasn't hiding anything

Doctors room ghost

Paullimerick wrote: »

It's a 3 grand car. That's been parked up about 3 months. He got very sh**y first that he was dropping it back and he wanted his money back.

Not your problem.he bought the car as seen and signed the change of ownership.its his car the second he paid for it and signed the form and therefore he also inherited any problems that car may develop up the road.
He could have had a mechanic look at it BEFORE purchase but didn’t so tough luck on him.
And what’s to say he didn’t drive the sh1te out of it going home.id be telling him this and leaving it at that.his problem

rizzee

Delete and block his number, if he calls to your door phone the guards.

Doctors room ghost

rizzee wrote: »

Delete and block his number, if he calls to your door phone the guards.

I’d agree with this but I would first explain to him if he contacted me that he bought the car as seen under his own actions and own judgment and it is now therefore his property and that the problem developed after sale. I would then explain I would not be discussing the matter any further and then block his number. If he does try and push the matter or turn up at House I would involve the guards and let them deal with it.he hasn’t a leg to stand on and even though it is unfortunate it is not the sellers problem

rizzee

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

I’d agree with this but I would first explain to him if he contacted me that he bought the car as seen under his own actions and own judgment and it is now therefore his property and that the problem developed after sale. I would then explain I would not be discussing the matter any further and then block his number. If he does try and push the matter or turn up at House I would involve the guards and let them deal with it.he hasn’t a leg to stand on and even though it is unfortunate it is not the sellers problem

Yeah; I agree with letting him know before blocking his details too.