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citizenship application.

  • 07-03-2018 7:32pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭


    Hi all,i have been resident in ireland for 23 years(ex scotland) and i am about to apply for irish citizenship as my grandmother was born in belfast,i understand i have to send my birth cert,both my parents birth,marriage and death certs,the thing is i'm unsure if i have to send the same certs for both my grandparents,or is it only my grandmothers certs i send with my application?

    thanks.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    I'd be fairly sure it would only be the grandparent born on Ireland that would be relevant.

    You would usually have 4 grandparents...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭glaswegian


    I'd be fairly sure it would only be the grandparent born on Ireland that would be relevant.

    You would usually have 4 grandparents...

    Thanks,I kinda guessed I wouldn’t have to supply certs for all 4,I was wondering if I have to supply certs for my grandfather who was married to my Irish granny.
    Cheers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭Squatter


    glaswegian wrote: »

    Hi all,i have been resident in ireland for 23 years(ex scotland) and i am about to apply for irish citizenship as my grandmother was born in belfast,i understand i have to send my birth cert,both my parents birth,marriage and death certs,the thing is i'm unsure if i have to send the same certs for both my grandparents,or is it only my grandmothers certs i send with my application?

    Have you ticked this box:-

    "Citizenship through descent from Irish grandparents

    If one of your grandparents is an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland, but neither of your parents was born in Ireland, you may become an Irish citizen. You will need to have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register."

    Citizens Information website.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,026 ✭✭✭glaswegian


    Squatter wrote: »
    Have you ticked this box:-

    "Citizenship through descent from Irish grandparents

    If one of your grandparents is an Irish citizen who was born in Ireland, but neither of your parents was born in Ireland, you may become an Irish citizen. You will need to have your birth registered in the Foreign Births Register."

    Citizens Information website.

    Hi, i have already read that and that is why i posted this query,it's a bit vague (to me anyway) whether i have to send certs for both grandparents or just my irish grandmothers certs,i don't want to purchase birth and death and marriage certs when i don't need to,nor do i want to apply for citizenship without supplying the correct number of certs.
    cheers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 J1


    Hi

    Hope it is Ok to jump on this thread. I am applying for citizenship for my daughter. I am an Irish citizenship but was also born outside of Ireland. I returned to Ireland with my parents when I was 5 back in the 70's. In those days you were automatically entitled to citizenship and I have had an Irish passport since. In order for her to become a citizenship she needs to register first and to do that she needs a copy of my registration certificate which I don't have as they came in to effect in the mid 80's. My question is then would my passport suffice? I have tried contacting the DFA and they are not taking calls, have emailed three times and they have not replied, even paid €20 for information that never came to me. There is a checklist on their site but it doesn't say certificate of reg or passport. Has anyone had a similar experience and knows the answer? Thanks


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 J1


    She was born in the UK 1999


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,260 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I presume the reason that the OP is an Irish citizens is that one or both of his parents is an Irish citizen, born in Ireland.

    If so, SFAIK his daughter should be entitled to Irish citizenship based on her grandparent's Irish-birth citizenship. She'll need a chain of birth and marriage certs etc to prove that she is the grandaughter of an Irish-born grandparent, but she shouldn't need to demonstrate that either of her parents is an Irish citizen. The procedure, SFAIK, is that she has her birth registered in the Register of Foreign Births maintained by the Dept of Foreign Affairs. INIS is not involved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 J1


    Hi

    Thank you both for you replies. I can apply through my parents, her grandparents as they are both Irish, however, the documentation seems endless and needs to be notorised by a solicitor. Applying directly through me is easier but the issue of the certificate of registration for me has been the hold up.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,260 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    You don't have a choice here. Being born to someone who is an Irish citizen by descent (as you are) does not confer a right to Irish citizenship. If you were an Irish citizen by birth, naturalisation, adoption or registration then that would give your daughter a right to Irish citizenship, and of course you would have an Irish birth cert, Irish adoption papers, etc, as appropriate which could be produced. But because you are an Irish citizen by descent, you're no use to her (in this regard!). Sorry, but there it is.

    She has to apply on the basis of her descent from an Irish-born grandparent.


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