Fake/fraudulent tickets? Help a brother out

lizzylad84

Recently (2 weeks) bought 2 tickets through an online buy snd sell page. Paid cost price. Seller informed me he was sending via regestered post. No sign of tickets. I gave a horrible feeling I've been scanned. What ca n I do? No communication from seller since

davo2001

lizzylad84 wrote: »

Recently (2 weeks) bought 2 tickets through an online buy snd sell page. Paid cost price. Seller informed me he was sending via regestered post. No sign of tickets. I gave a horrible feeling I've been scanned. What ca n I do? No communication from seller since

How did you pay for the tickets, paypal, credit card, debit card.

Effects

Did he provide you with the tracking number for the registered item?

lizzylad84

Zero contact from seller. Paid via PayPal

CWF

lizzylad84 wrote: »

Zero contact from seller. Paid via PayPal

You should be able to get your money back if you contact PayPal

GarIT

lizzylad84 wrote: »

Paid via PayPal

Then just claim the money back. PayPal will refund you the full amount as long as you didn’t try to scam them and say the money was a gift to avoid paying fees.

davo2001

lizzylad84 wrote: »

Zero contact from seller. Paid via PayPal

Just do a charge back on Paypal, shouldn't be any issue.

emeldc

GarIT wrote: »

Then just claim the money back. PayPal will refund you the full amount as long as you didn’t try to scam them and say the money was a gift to avoid paying fees.

If you send the money as a gift the buyer (OP) pays the fees. No?

davo2001

emeldc wrote: »

If you send the money as a gift the buyer (OP) pays the fees. No?

Possibly but the main thing about paying as a gift is that you have zero buyer protection.

Trigger Happy

Never use the gift option on paypal unless it really is a gift. I learned that one the hard way.

GarIT

emeldc wrote: »

If you send the money as a gift the buyer (OP) pays the fees. No?

No there are no fees on gifts. (except when a gift is sent from a credit card)

If you put it through as a purchase only the seller pays fees.

Wheety

Please say you didn't send it through the "Send money to friends and family" option? The scammers will say to use this to save fees but it means you can't claim it back. You're basically telling PayPal that you're not buying from a stranger and you're authorising the payment. You have no comeback this way.

TedR

For what show do you mind me asking?

lizzylad84

U2

ED E

Mr.S wrote: »

Can you not still commence a chargeback via your bank?

Thats a great way to have Paypal very very pissed at you.

GarIT

Mr.S wrote: »

Think this is better in Consumer Issues.



Can you not still commence a chargeback via your bank?

If you attempt to do a chargeback against PayPal they'll hit you with an unreversable lifetime ban. You can get around it by changing your email address and the bank account/card you use with them but that can be inconvenient.

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GarIT wrote: »

If you attempt to do a chargeback against PayPal they'll hit you with an unreversable lifetime ban. You can get around it by changing your email address and the bank account/card you use with them but that can be inconvenient.

I'd dispute the ban claim. I know somebody who initiated a chargeback successfully and continues to use PayPal on their original account.

GarIT

Marlon Old-fashioned Soy wrote: »

I'd dispute the ban claim. I know somebody who initiated a chargeback successfully and continues to use PayPal on their original account.

That's very strange. From what I've read previously hell hath no fury like a chargebacked paypal.

Fred Swanson

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Miaireland

Have the physical U2 tickets come out yet?

deviladvocate

I may be wrong, but aren't the U2 gigs ticketless? For standing at least? Meaning you need the card used at purchase to get in.
Paypal claim is the way to go... If you can't, unfortunately you've learned a very expensive lesson! Sorry buddy!

RustyNut

deviladvocate wrote: »

I may be wrong, but aren't the U2 gigs ticketless? For standing at least? Meaning you need the card used at purchase to get in.

Does this mean that I can no longer buy tickets for family and friends as presents?

ScouseMouse

What website did you buy from.

GarIT

RustyNut wrote: »

Does this mean that I can no longer buy tickets for family and friends as presents?

You must lend them your card for the duration of the event, otherwise yes.

Fred Swanson

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Effects

ED E wrote: »

Thats a great way to have Paypal very very pissed at you.

Who cares? Paypal treat people like sh1t if they feel like it.

TedR

U2... sorry. I work in the biz, thought I could maybe help, but afraid thats a tough one as you know
I hope you get sorted.

lizzylad84

TedR wrote: »

U2... sorry. I work in the biz, thought I could maybe help, but afraid thats a tough one as you know
I hope you get sorted.

THanks TedR contacted paypal so looks like it might get resolved

Xterminator

Effects wrote: »

Who cares? Paypal treat people like sh1t if they feel like it.

well i have had nothing but good expereince of pay pal as a buyer over many years.

emeldc

Xterminator wrote: »

well i have had nothing but good expereince of pay pal as a buyer over many years.

Yep, I bought a Garmin years ago on ebay but didn't get a charger with it. Paypal negotiated with the seller and I got a refund of €20. Their rules are fairly clear. It's just that people don't read or understand them properly.

RustyNut

GarIT wrote: »

You must lend them your card for the duration of the event, otherwise yes.

Sounds like ticketmaster protecting their own price gouging touts, seat waves profits.

AndrewJRenko

GarIT wrote: »

You must lend them your card for the duration of the event, otherwise yes.

RustyNut wrote: »

Sounds like ticketmaster protecting their own price gouging touts, seat waves profits.

It's a great way to stop touting, if combined with availability of refunds. It effectively stops touting. If you buy a ticket, you have to attend. If you're not able to attend, you return your ticket and get a refund.

The Seat Wave thing is another thing all together.

Trigger Happy

Xterminator wrote: »

well i have had nothing but good expereince of pay pal as a buyer over many years.

Could not agree more. I have been using paypal since 2002 as a buyer and seller and have not once had an issue.
I must have thousand transactions at this stage.
Yeah, their fees could be lower, but it's a great service.

RustyNut

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

It's a great way to stop touting, if combined with availability of refunds. It effectively stops touting. If you buy a ticket, you have to attend. If you're not able to attend, you return your ticket and get a refund.

The Seat Wave thing is another thing all together.

All they are doing is monopolising ticket touting. If its OK for big business to sell tickets at inflated prices what's wrong with Joe Soap doing the same. We are not talking about food or medicines here concert tickets are a luxury item.

AndrewJRenko

RustyNut wrote: »

All they are doing is monopolising ticket touting. If its OK for big business to sell tickets at inflated prices what's wrong with Joe Soap doing the same. We are not talking about food or medicines here concert tickets are a luxury item.

It's a good start.

GarIT

RustyNut wrote: »

All they are doing is monopolising ticket touting. If its OK for big business to sell tickets at inflated prices what's wrong with Joe Soap doing the same. We are not talking about food or medicines here concert tickets are a luxury item.

Often if not always events that require a card for entry are not allowed onto seatwave.