Piers on a Boundry Wall (whcih side)

magnethead

Hi Guys,
I need some fast advise please, There is a wall being built between myself and the neighbor(starting tomorrow), just a standard block construction.

What is the deal with Pier location, Should it be on both sides? I know, they will not want Piers on their side as it faces onto their driveway.

sky6

The Wall should be built on the center line with half the pier on each side. Once it's nicely plastered it looks well.

In you all building the piers all to one side then you could do what I did years ago with a Neighbour and toss for which side the piers go.

Gumbo

Who is paying for the wall?

There's a couple of ways it can be built.

215 solid blocks on edge with piers every 4m or so. This will lead to the piers protruding more in one side.
You could center the boundary wall and then center the piers.

Maybe the OP can confirm what way its been constructed.

magnethead

haha, I like the coin toss solution, sounds like a decent neighbor you have there ;p The neighbor is paying for the wall, as It should have being completed years ago when they moved in. I'm building shortly on the site next door.

Calahonda52

magnethead wrote: »

Hi Guys,
I need some fast advise please, There is a wall being built between myself and the neighbor(starting tomorrow), just a standard block construction.

What is the deal with Pier location, Should it be on both sides? I know, they will not want Piers on their side as it faces onto their driveway.

we need some fast dimensions of the wall.:(

who has signed off on the foundation design,
the exact line of the wall and have you given them permission to access your side.

Have you done it in accordance with this

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2009/act/27/enacted/en/print#part8-chap3

sydthebeat

the piers should be 50 / 50 on both sides

however, if the neighbour is paying for the wall, then he who pays the piper calls the tune.

magnethead

Hi,
THanks again for your excellent advise, the wall is a standard high wall (2M)...Nobody has signed off on the design, the original builder is back doing the wall.
Yes I've given permission to access my side I'm not going to make an issue of it.

I hear you Syd....but I've not being given any details about the wall design, I don't like that, but these guys are not builders.

anyway, bigger issues with where the wall ends, and there insulated/rendered wall continues the boundary, Who's going to cover the cost when my son kicks a football into it, and it plugs in the side of the wall ;p

magnethead

something like this (Blue strip is the wall)

Metric Tensor

2m is very high for a front boundary wall. Do you and your neighbour know that a wall that height needs planning permission?

Anyway, split the pillars or alternatively there are ways of building reinforced walls with no pillars. If a bit of thought and design is put in now that could help everybody.

External insulation on a boundary wall is a great question!

magnethead

Yeah, I'm tempted to ask the architect what he was thinking, but I can imagine he might have being led down the garden path a bit ;p knowing my neighbor

back tomorrow with foundations details

Metric Tensor

Sorry - posted in the wrong thread!

magnethead

Thanks again guys for your fast advise, the builder is a pro who's doing this,
The original planning does call out some kinda 'low wall', but sure I'm happier the higher it is.

Piers and wall are being built on their land, Nothing is crossing the Demarcation line


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sydthebeat

hows does a football plug in a rendered wall?

is it velcro or what??

Lumen

sydthebeat wrote: »

hows does a football plug in a rendered wall?

is it velcro or what??

External wall insulation? :pac:

Metric Tensor

I don't want to focus on the wrong thing here but that football is the wrong shape.

sydthebeat

Metric Tensor wrote: »

I don't want to focus on the wrong thing here but that football is the wrong shape.

maybe its just been kicked so hard???? :pac::pac::pac:

sky6

Metric Tensor wrote: »

I don't want to focus on the wrong thing here but that football is the wrong shape.

It's Rugby season. So i'ts a Rugby Ball.

magnethead

Just to finish this off, Can I ask the resident expert on boundary walls a question (Because there has to be one for such a controversial issue :pac:)

Wall, is built now, but someone mentioned to me that a boundary wall needs to be "fit for purpose"....
The supports are tucked in here, but the side wall of the house (1/3 site) is a render(5mm) on exterior insulation job,
What happens if my kid damages that skinjob of a wall? Am I liable?
Thanks

magnethead

Jaysus, I guess boundary walls are difficult issues and will continue to be

BryanF

magnethead wrote: »

, but the side wall of the house (1/3 site) is a render(5mm) on exterior insulation job,
What happens if my kid damages that skinjob of a wall? Am I liable?
Thanks

IMO,

As you say the wall should be fit for purpose. Does it separate the two properties adequately?

If you repeatly hit a ball of the ewi, I’d argue your liable for the damage

Should this have been discussed before the wall started? Yes. If it were me, I’d have specified an additional mesh layer to reduce damage.

Btw is the insulation on boundary mineral wool? It should be non-combustible and achieve a fire rating (30mins?) as per TGD B

Mahogany Gaspipe

From the photo it looks like part of the wall of your neighbours house is forming part of your boundary wall?

magnethead

Yes the neighbours wall is making the boundary , the insulation is some bolt on - black looking 150mm thick block..

I was more thinking of accidental damage...not something done on purpose

Calahonda52

well well well

assuming the lower party of the wall spits the party boundary line then the EWI looks like it protrudes into your airspace: => IMO he needs your consent to sell
Have you shown this picture to your solicitor?

magnethead

Ah I'm not worried about the airpace ;p Just what would happen if a fragile piece of render was damaged from my side.....They're suggesting that I should put up some timber trealace to cover that area....but Like I'm not the one who put the side of my house on the boundary line