Van/car seat baby

Jayjay2424

Hi everyone not to sure about this one tried look on the internet couldn't find anything Found out im going to be a farther 😠but my main concern is i drive a 3 seater van and was wondering are you allowed to carry new borns in vans in the front seat ? I know it can be dangerous but I really have no other choice to keep my van as I need it and would rather not take another policy out on a car ... Obvusly once there in car seat and all that but I could t find anything about it and don't know anyone that has seem to done it.. Has anyone on here done it before ... sorry of posted in wrong place don't really know how to work this properly lol

_Brian

The big grey area is commercial insurance and tax, it’s essentially a commercial vehicle so not supposed to use for “social and domestic”.

raxy

Once the airbag is disabled you should be fine. Probably no isofix in the van so you just need to get something to use with just the seatbelt.

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Your-Vehicle/About-your-Vehicle/Example-of-non-Dup/Seat-belts--child-restraints-/

colm_mcm

_Brian wrote: »

The big grey area is commercial insurance and tax, it’s essentially a commercial vehicle so not supposed to use for “social and domestic”.

Usually it’s only crewcabs they’re bothered with.

_Brian

Op I see plenty of people doing it, you will see loads of transits etc with baby seats in the front. Once you are happy to carry the child in the front, which really isn't any major risk once the airbag is off you won't have any problems.

_Brian wrote: »

The big grey area is commercial insurance and tax, it’s essentially a commercial vehicle so not supposed to use for “social and domestic”.

There is no grey area in relation to insurance, commercial policies always cover social and domestic use as the insurance companies know well that it's unavoidable.

colm_mcm wrote: »

Usually it’s only crewcabs they’re bothered with.

Who is bothered with it? No one from my experience bar a few posters on here who appear to think it's an issue (not directed at you btw). The reason many people I know have crew cabs over 2 seat commercial landcruisers etc is specifically to be able to bring the kids/family in it also.

oinkely

Jayjay2424 wrote: »

Hi everyone not to sure about this one tried look on the internet couldn't find anything Found out im going to be a farther 😠but my main concern is i drive a 3 seater van and was wondering are you allowed to carry new borns in vans in the front seat ? I know it can be dangerous but I really have no other choice to keep my van as I need it and would rather not take another policy out on a car ... Obvusly once there in car seat and all that but I could t find anything about it and don't know anyone that has seem to done it.. Has anyone on here done it before ... sorry of posted in wrong place don't really know how to work this properly lol

Congrats on the great news. When we had our first child I had a VW transporter. Wife was concerned over using the baby seat in the front initially but figured that the kid was probably safer in the front seat of my van than in the back seat of her Ibiza in the event of a collision. Never happened but we drove all over the country with the 3 of us up front. Very handy for long trips and feeding etc, and it's much easier to change a nappy on the front bench seat of a transporter than on the back seat of an ibiza. Never had issues with tax or insurance. Insurance policy was social and domestic only so no issue there and tax was always private. As the family grew we moved to a sensible family car but quickly regretted the loss of space so went back to a crew cab van instead. Best vehicle ever.

Jayjay2424

_Brian wrote: »

The big grey area is commercial insurance and tax, it’s essentially a commercial vehicle so not supposed to use for “social and domestic”.

Ya i have it taxed and insured commercially. I don't think you can get it insured for domestic and pleasure use on a van can you ?

Jayjay2424

raxy wrote: »

Once the airbag is disabled you should be fine. Probably no isofix in the van so you just need to get something to use with just the seatbelt.

http://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Your-Vehicle/About-your-Vehicle/Example-of-non-Dup/Seat-belts--child-restraints-/

Why would you have to turn the airbag for safety is it sorry don't know much about this

Jayjay2424

Kimberly Plain Nitpicker wrote: »

Op I see plenty of people doing it, you will see loads of transits etc with baby seats in the front. Once you are happy to carry the child in the front, which really isn't any major risk once the airbag is off you won't have any problems.



There is no grey area in relation to insurance, commercial policies always cover social and domestic use as the insurance companies know well that it's unavoidable.



Who is bothered with it? No one from my experience bar a few posters on here who appear to think it's an issue (not directed at you btw). The reason many people I know have crew cabs over 2 seat commercial landcruisers etc is specifically to be able to bring the kids/family in it also.

So your saying it will be ok my van is a 3 seater Peugeot partner? Would I have to go about to a mechanic when time comes to get airbag switched off ? I know I might sound silly here but why does the airbag have to be switched off ?

Jayjay2424

oinkely wrote: »

Congrats on the great news. When we had our first child I had a VW transporter. Wife was concerned over using the baby seat in the front initially but figured that the kid was probably safer in the front seat of my van than in the back seat of her Ibiza in the event of a collision. Never happened but we drove all over the country with the 3 of us up front. Very handy for long trips and feeding etc, and it's much easier to change a nappy on the front bench seat of a transporter than on the back seat of an ibiza. Never had issues with tax or insurance. Insurance policy was social and domestic only so no issue there and tax was always private. As the family grew we moved to a sensible family car but quickly regretted the loss of space so went back to a crew cab van instead. Best vehicle ever.

It would be same kind of thing so with me would it but only thing is in insured commercially ?

Jayjay2424

Jayjay2424 wrote: »

So your saying it will be ok my van is a 3 seater Peugeot partner? Would I have to go about to a mechanic when time comes to get airbag switched off ? I know I might sound silly here but why does the airbag have to be switched off ?

Most modern cars allow you to turn off the passenger airbag yourself, it's usually done with the car key somewhere on the passenger side or in the centre console maybe. It has to be turned off as an airbag can do serious harm to a baby.

Jayjay2424 wrote: »

It would be same kind of thing so with me would it but only thing is in insured commercially ?

Check your insurance, it will almost certainly state that you are also covered for social domestic and pleasure use. I've never seen a commercial policy that hasn't and I know a lot of people driving commercials for either partial private use or 100% private use.

Just look at how many people you see driving around in their work vans at weekends never mind all the people who use commercial 4x4's and crew cabs privately (while taxed and insured commercially since it's impossible to get private insurance in a commercial anymore).

colm_mcm

Jayjay2424 wrote: »

So your saying it will be ok my van is a 3 seater Peugeot partner? Would I have to go about to a mechanic when time comes to get airbag switched off ? I know I might sound silly here but why does the airbag have to be switched off ?

As it’s a small van, you’ll have the problem that you only have 2.5 seats and it’ll be a bit of a squeeze.