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The Walking Dead - Season 8

Episode 10 - "The Lost and the Plunderers"

Airdate - March 4th on AMC at 9/8c | March 5th on FOX UK at 9PM

Groups unite their forces and converge on the Hilltop; Aaron and Enid search for allies. Simon takes matters into his own hands.

Promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24mtL32R1to

Sneak Peek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilhcIeoEuD0

naughto

Better than last weeks .
Menince meat any one?

brianregan09

7

That was a great episode the back and forth between Rick and Neegan the standout

bear1

I'm 5mins in and already twice I rolled my eyes.

jonon9

I really do like Simon also whats with

Rick never ending ammo

Keplar240B

9

Wow .... .... just wow ...

bear1

Does Rick give any sort of a **** that his kid has just died?
I mean he goes for the 3rd time to make a deal with the rubbish people and then just stumbles around.
And this whole enid scene, just. Just ok.
Then we are given some sort of clue that there is a helipad and solar panels at the dump but yet it's dismissed and ignored.
**** off.

DoozerT6

Well I liked the fact that we got to hear Jadis speaking in complete sentences for once Also completely sensible having a

giant meat grinder

just lying about like that. Pretty average CGI in that scene too I felt. Objectively speaking, can you imagine the emotional trauma she's going through right now? I get the feeling we haven't seen the last of her, I know there are a couple of theories circulating about her. But will she be for Rick, or aginn' him?

I still think they need to wrap it up soon, if S9 is green-lit then I think that should be the last season. It's still enjoyable, but repetitive. We've had 8 seasons of survival, maybe they could start to move into recovery mode and then end the show. OR, end it with the walkers taking over completely and Rick and the few survivors left knowing they will eventually run out of luck and resigning themselves to that fate. Aaaaand fade...

freddie1970

Whats the story with Negan about as intimidating as a teletubbie bleeding joke

stronglikebull

Just. Fúcking. shít.

There's nothing else to be said for this show now. It's crap, on every level. I nearly turned it off after 10 minutes. I think I'm done with TWD. I might leave it till the finale now and see what it ends with.

mzungu

bear1 wrote: »

Does Rick give any sort of a **** that his kid has just died?
I mean he goes for the 3rd time to make a deal with the rubbish people and then just stumbles around.
And this whole enid scene, just. Just ok.
Then we are given some sort of clue that there is a helipad and solar panels at the dump but yet it's dismissed and ignored.
**** off.

I'm sure that will be revisited at some point.

Maybe the helicopter Rick saw might come into it?

mzungu

That was an enjoyable episode, much better than most of this season so far. Although I could have done without the Enid part. The Garbage Pail Kids got minced, they won't be missed but I'm sure Jadis will have a role in the final battle at the end of the season. Episode highlight was Simon. I just wish they had more episodes like this over the past two seasons that show the tensions within the Saviours hierarchy. Hopefully they build on things from here.

Scraggs

I thought it was strange how the episode was split up and labeled with the characters names. Out of keeping with the usual TWD style but maybe that's a good thing.

Overall I enjoyed the episode, more than last week for sure. Particularly enjoyed the humanising of Jadis and the Negan Rick interaction. I can't remember the last time I've been looking forward to the next episode, certainly not season 8 anyway!

uncleoswald

Showed a bit of promise I thought, seemed more focused than recent episodes despite the strange way it split off each scene by the name of a character. Apart from the Enid scene everything seemed connected (and why was it even titled "Enid", Aaron would have been more appropriate considering he made the big choice at the end and the scene even ended focused on him.) Why did they title each scene? No idea. Will they ever go back to doing it in future? Probably not.

Annoying that Rick AGAIN made the decision to go back and make a deal with the rubbish dump folk but thankfully that is the end of them. Yer one might not be so bad if she starts talking normal.

Things getting potentially interesting between Simon and Neagan, so I expect the show to **** that up somehow next week.

Penn

7

A pretty good episode I thought. Some dud bits like Enid & Michonne's parts ("Carl always used to sit on the roof of the Gazebo, we have to save it!" - He did in his f*ck!)

Simon was the best bit about the episode, though I really like the actor playing him so I may be biased. The Junkyarders are mostly gone which is a huge bonus, and Jadis has now shown that they were deliberately choosing to speak like f*cking idiots and can actually speak normally, which was just the biggest waste of effort and makes no sense.

Still though, a better episode than most recent ones.

bear1

mzungu wrote: »

I'm sure that will be revisited at some point.

Maybe the helicopter Rick saw might come into it?

I assume so but that's then the 2nd time they make a reference to it and go no further.
So we need to wait again for another reference to it.
I kept hoping to see the camera pan out to show the helipad but I wonder who is the person that can fly it.

Reggie.

7

bear1 wrote: »

I assume so but that's then the 2nd time they make a reference to it and go no further.
So we need to wait again for another reference to it.
I kept hoping to see the camera pan out to show the helipad but I wonder who is the person that can fly it.

I was thinking/hoping that it was some sort of a secret base or research area as Simon mentions that "What was this place before" implying that there was something hidden

bear1

Reggie. wrote: »

I was thinking/hoping that it was some sort of a secret base or research area as Simon mentions that "What was this place before" implying that there was something hidden

Military?

Reggie.

7

bear1 wrote: »

Military?

Maybe. I thought that they have up thier weapons very easily as if they had plenty of them around

sonofenoch

Completely forgot this was even on last night, not even the repeat later totally slipped my mind......had last weeks one on in the background but didn't even pay enough attention to comment

TerrorFirmer

5

As average as that episode was as TV generally goes, that was a radical improvement on the first half of the season and the entirety of the last season...I actually slightly enjoyed it which is the first time I've felt that about TWD in ages (except FTWD which is much better). With a new showrunner they might actually get the show somewhat back on track....

Jeffrey Dean Morgan is a great actor and he was brilliant in the very first episode where he was first introduced....but he's been a terrible pantomine villian ever since that gets more and more dramatic and ridiculous as the show drags on at a snails pace. Sort of like the show itself, I think it's unfortunately gone way too far for them to redeem him in any way so I'm just waiting for them to get rid of him. That dude Simon is what Negan should've been - dark and menacing with real presence and sense of gravity to his actions/words.

Anyway, yeah, pretty OK episode, and Ep9 was sorta alright too. Will be REALLY interesting to see where TWD goes with a new showrunner.

thegreengoblin

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

As average as that episode was as TV generally goes, that was a radical improvement on the first half of the season and the entirety of the last season...I actually slightly enjoyed it which is the first time I've felt that about TWD in ages (except FTWD which is much better). With a new showrunner they might actually get the show somewhat back on track....

Jeffrey Dean Morgan is a great actor and he was brilliant in the very first episode where he was first introduced....but he's been a terrible pantomine villian ever since that gets more and more dramatic and ridiculous as the show drags on at a snails pace. Sort of like the show itself, I think it's unfortunately gone way too far for them to redeem him in any way so I'm just waiting for them to get rid of him. That dude Simon is what Negan should've been - dark and menacing with real presence and sense of gravity to his actions/words.

Anyway, yeah, pretty OK episode, and Ep9 was sorta alright too. Will be REALLY interesting to see where TWD goes with a new showrunner.

Ah in fairness Simon can lay it on pretty thick when he wants to as well! I actually think they've swapped roles a bit lately. Negan has a more human face to him these days whereas Simon hams it up when he's confronting another group such as the scene with the Garbage gang. Plus Negan wouldn't have killed them all like that whereas Simon thought nothing of it.

I thought this was another decent episode, it was once again focused and tight. The fact that in the space of a few episodes the writers have eliminated most of the Kingdom and the Garbage people gives me hope for the future. Less really is more in this show and hopefully they've learnt a lesson about having too many characters in the show that no one cares about. I've probably given it the kiss of death there

I know Negan has his army of critics but the pantomime stuff is mostly out of the way and his character is growing. The scene where Rick calls him on the walkie talkie to tell him about Carl was really good. Negan was clearly affected by Carl's death and spoke for all of us really by having a go at Rick for his stupid decision-making, which has led to Carl's death.

And isn't it amazing how by speaking normally again, Jadis suddenly became an interesting character!

mojesius

6

I have it 8/10 purely because the garbage patch kids are finally out of the equation, worth its weight in gold, thank you Simon. Dropped two points because of Enid. It would have been great if the forest femanazis took her out but no such luck.

Nice to see Michonne putting the sword to work again but what was that ****e with the fire extinguishers?!

uncleoswald

mojesius wrote: »

what was that ****e with the fire extinguishers?!

Yeah that was really annoying. So apparently Carl loved sitting at that gazebo...that I don't even remember existing on the show before. Wouldn't it have been nice if we the audience had spent some time with Carl on said gazebo? Perhaps with his "Best Friend" Michonne to give us a sense of their apparent strong relationship. It might have given that scene and the scene he says goodbye to her a bit more weight. It's like the writers wanted to give Carl this big emotional send off but then struggled to think of anything defining about him as a character, besides his hat, so made up some stuff. Apart from maybe one episode a season he was largely a glorified extra.

wakka12

That was the first episode in a long time that I didn't think was either laughably bad or painfully boring

Jimmy Bottlehead

6

Have little to add to what's already been said, but I'm glad to be able to actually watch an episode and not feel tediously bored, and instead enjoy it.

By no means perfect, but tighter than before and all the better for it.

Banjaxed82

4

It was an improvement, but that's not saying much given the low standards it's reached.

The show has no sense of purpose. I just have no idea what's going on. It badly needs a substantial and over all plot twist to turn the show in another direction.

wakka12

Banjaxed82 wrote: »

It was an improvement, but that's not saying much given the low standards it's reached.

The show has no sense of purpose. I just have no idea what's going on. It badly needs a substantial and over all plot twist to turn the show in another direction.

It is the epitome of a show being needlessly dragged out just because it gets high ratings

There should be half the number of seasons there are and way less episodes, and episodes should be shorter. They really need to pack in an action packed punch if its a zombie show, short and sweet. Not all these up close shots of characters crying who we don't even know the name of or care about in the slightest. The acting and script are way way way too poor to focus as much on the drama /relationships side as they do

At this stage the only interesting parts of the show are when characters die or big action scenes . Its sad because season 1 and 2 and maybe even 3 were great. Im just still here because I used to be such a big fan back then :P

And I don't get how they cant find better actors. Machonne and couple others are decent but most of the extras are nearly cringe inducing bad, I could find better actors picking people randomly off the street in dublin

wakka12

uncleoswald wrote: »

Yeah that was really annoying. So apparently Carl loved sitting at that gazebo...that I don't even remember existing on the show before. Wouldn't it have been nice if we the audience had spent some time with Carl on said gazebo? Perhaps with his "Best Friend" Michonne to give us a sense of their apparent strong relationship. It might have given that scene and the scene he says goodbye to her a bit more weight. It's like the writers wanted to give Carl this big emotional send off but then struggled to think of anything defining about him as a character, besides his hat, so made up some stuff. Apart from maybe one episode a season he was largely a glorified extra.

Oh was that what it was? I couldn't understand why they were so obsessed with the gazebo I thought carls body was in there and thats why they tried to save it, how did it even catch fire

wakka12

TerrorFirmer wrote: »

As average as that episode was as TV generally goes, that was a radical improvement on the first half of the season and the entirety of the last season...I actually slightly enjoyed it which is the first time I've felt that about TWD in ages (except FTWD which is much better). With a new showrunner they might actually get the show somewhat back on track....

Jeffrey Dean Morgan is a great actor and he was brilliant in the very first episode where he was first introduced....but he's been a terrible pantomine villian ever since that gets more and more dramatic and ridiculous as the show drags on at a snails pace. Sort of like the show itself, I think it's unfortunately gone way too far for them to redeem him in any way so I'm just waiting for them to get rid of him. That dude Simon is what Negan should've been - dark and menacing with real presence and sense of gravity to his actions/words.

Anyway, yeah, pretty OK episode, and Ep9 was sorta alright too. Will be REALLY interesting to see where TWD goes with a new showrunner.

Completely agree. Im just thinking back to that scene in the forest near the start of the season when maggie was really sick and they were trying to get her to the hilltop but the saviours caught them, that packed a punch.His character had so much weight, he was genuinely terrifying. Then in juxtaposition with the other night when he was on the phone to rick, sounded like a pair of 5 year olds bickering. Same old tripe being rehashed again and again you're evil I'm gonna kill you yada yada pick a new line rick

storker

5

wakka12 wrote: »

Same old tripe being rehashed again and again you're evil I'm gonna kill you yada yada pick a new line rick

Nobody in this zombxxx walker apocalypse seems to know how to argue or express an opinion clearly, which makes for weird conversations where obvious things aren't mentioned. In the debate over the killing of the prisoners, for example, nobody has yet mentioned the problem of what the prisoners would do after they were released (probably form Saviours #2 and the whole thing starts again). I guess they're too concerned with poorly-articulated high ideas than they are with practicalities.

Or take the radio conversation between Rick and Negan. Rick doesn't even respond to Negan's laying of the blame for Corl's death onto him, and lets Negan's suggestion that everything was hunky dory before (wha?) go unchallenged. Nobody seems yet to have really called BS on Negan's claim to be providing a service, when in fact it's a parasitic extortion racket (oh no, the dead have arisen, won't someone please relieve me of half my essential supplies and all of my weapons?). Rick touched on it in his comment to Michonne after reading Corl's letter, but then let it drop. It's the old living-on-your-knees versus dying-on-your-feet dilemma, but it never really gets thrashed out.

Of course, it could be put down to Rick's grief preventing him from thinking clearly, but I'd be reluctant to give the TWD writers that much credit when it can more simply be explained by incompetence.

On a similar note, the whole letter to Negan just said "I want you stop"? Did he write it out 50 times? I can understand Rick not wanting to read the letter to Negan out of spite, although I doubt Corl wrote it with the intention of being so succinctly paraphrased. What doesn't make sense, though, is Negan not even asking him to read it to him. The TWD writers seem to have an amazing inability to imagine someone in a situation, ask themselves what that person would be likely to say or do, and come up with a convincing answer. Maybe we should have a re-writing TWD scenes thread.

Still, it was far from the worst episode I've ever seen, but that's a pretty competitive field.

mzungu

bear1 wrote: »

I assume so but that's then the 2nd time they make a reference to it and go no further.
So we need to wait again for another reference to it.
I kept hoping to see the camera pan out to show the helipad but I wonder who is the person that can fly it.

My guess is that they are setting it up for the end of season cliffhanger.

DoozerT6

Maybe I missed something, but Negan kept telling Rick that is was his fault that Corrrralll is dead. How was that, exactly? He can't keep him on a lead or anything.

Carl went out quite of his own accord to find Siddiq, who he knew was lurking around there somewhere. And he 'got bit'. How was that Rick's fault?

Carl shoulda just stayed in the damn house....

storker

5

DoozerT6 wrote: »

Maybe I missed something, but Negan kept telling Rick that is was his fault that Corrrralll is dead. How was that, exactly? He can't keep him on a lead or anything.

Carl went out quite of his own accord to find Siddiq, who he knew was lurking around there somewhere. And he 'got bit'. How was that Rick's fault?

Carl shoulda just stayed in the damn house....

Negan's argument seems to be this:

1. Rick was occupied with fighting Negan.
2. Because he was busy, he wasn't with Carl
3. Because Rick wasn't with Carl, Carl "got bit".
4. Therefore Carl's death is Rick's fault.

It's bullsiht, of course, even without taking account of the fact that Carl suffered from a chronic inability to do what he was told, but then everything that comes out of Negan's mouth is BS. Extorting being the same as saving, "Thuh Rulez" being as immutable as the laws of physics even though he's the one who makes them, etc.

ArmaniJeanss

Anyone else feel Simon was speaking for them when he asked the Junkyarders (and I paraphrase a lot here) "In this vast country with uninhabited mansions, gated estates, farms and lake islands, how in the name of fcuk did so many of you mental cases decide to live on a garbage dump?"

StringerBell

There is obviously more to the dump then it simply being a dump. Simon is supposed to get the audience asking that question.

ArmaniJeanss

StringerBell wrote: »

There is obviously more to the dump then it simply being a dump. Simon is supposed to get the audience asking that question.

I reckon there's nothing more to the dump than a plot arc abandoned by this seasons writing team. Even if the helicopter makes a quick re-appearance it'll be in another location - the dump set has been broken up and put into storage in the WTF cabinet imo.

StringerBell

Given the approach you could be right, I'm not so sure in this instance